*mono Backers With Superlines??*

[unionman]

Ok, so I just bought some Fireline after reading many articles proclaiming its superiority. Fireline recommends a mono backer of about 1/3 of your spool cap, to prevent slippage(what is slippage exactly?)..... How many of you actually use mono backers with superlines? If you do, is there a certain kind or strength that is optimal? I got the 30# Fireline. 12# thickness. My reel only holds 110yds(Quantum Tour Edition) of 12# test. Should I use a third of the spool for backer as recommended? Also what knot is best for splicing the mono to the superline? Bloodknot? Is there one that lays flatter on the spool? Any of you great anglers in these forums with knowledge oiin these topics would be greatly appreciated for your advice. Thank you.

[BASSclary]

Yes, you essentially need backing, or else your spool will slip. The braid is so smooth and there's no stretch, than when pressure is put on the line, without backing, the line will just slip around the spool basically making reeling pointless.

What kind is best? Whatever is cheapest. I use a bulk spool of Big Game 15#. I think I bought 1000 yds for like 7$ at Wal-mart.

Also, when you splice the lines, the alberto knot is the smallest, thinnest, best lying knot out there IMO. Heres a link on how to tie it. http://www.stripersonline.com/a/albertos-knot

It seems a little agressive at first, but I promise its actually not, and fairly easy to tie after the third time.

[aavery2]

The mono line is to prevent the braided line from spinning on the spool, I usually put enough mono on the reel to make up the difference of about 50-60 yards of braided line. Use a mono line that is close to the same diameter as the braided line you are using, it will make the knot to join the lines a little easier to tie. I would look at the Albright knot to join the two lines.

[unionman]

Thank you both. Very helpful. Gotta get this figured out before vacation... :-)

[Michael DiNardo]

I don't think it is necessary to spool 1/3 of your spool though. I may use 10-15 yds at most.

Mike

[unionman]

That was my next question... A third would be roughly 40yds of mono for me. Is that much necessary?? I know it prevents the braid from digging in as well as slipping but it seems a little exteme. I would like more line that i want in the water on my spool. I have a bright green too. Should I use a flouro leader for clear water if im fishing semi-deep(6-15ft) water? Thoughts? thx :-)

[outdoorsman110]

I use Copolymer rated for 14#s as backing, I put 5 yards on.

[SirSnookalot]

There is absolutely no need for backing when using braid on a spinning reel, as a cost cutting measure it's a good idea, but no slippage will happen if you use tape. Every reel I own both mono and braid has tape on the spool before my line is put on. I personally go braid all the way, that's a personal choice, I will add braid if needed and when I do join the lines I use back to back clinch knots, have next to no problems with it. I've used the alberto, it works good too but I'm more prone to use it offshore in the ocean.

[0119]

Ditto, never use backing anymore. Just wrap the line around the spool 2 or 3 times before tying with a uni. Watch Jose Wejebe's video on youtube showing how to do it.

[Stasher1]

I use Copolymer rated for 14#s as backing, I put 5 yards on.

This is pretty much how I do it as well. I use just enough mono to wrap aroud the spool about a half-dozen times.

[hatrix]

Unless you don't care, or are a big fan of buying more line, I would say use enough backing to split the braid in half. I am not sure you absolutely need backing either. It is more economical for me to stretch it out just in case. Unless you think you can cast 100 yards

There is absolutely no need for backing when using braid on a spinning reel, as a cost cutting measure it's a good idea, but no slippage will happen if you use tape.

[unionman]

Lots of good info. thx. If I do use tape, what kind of tape, how much, and how do i stick it to the spool?? Also, what is the "check" that i can click next to peoples posts? Thx guys. Great Forum!!

[outdoorsman110]

Lots of good info. thx. If I do use tape, what kind of tape, how much, and how do i stick it to the spool?? Also, what is the "check" that i can click next to peoples posts? Thx guys. Great Forum!!

I used hockey tape for a while, then I switched to backing.

[0119]

Check that video on youtube. Jose Wejebe on Spanish Fly. You dont need tape either. Its very easy too. No backing might be expensive but Ive never found the specs on capacity to be correct anyway. A 125 yard spool has always worked fine on bass size reels. Besides in a world where rapalas cost $15 and good reels start at $200, whats the cost of braid!

[B@ssCrzy]

I use the cheapest mono I can find and like to use a decent amount of backing so that I can save money on my braid. I always like to have the spool full as I think they perform better when loaded up. Might just be personal preference.

[bocabasser]

i never use backing. i have never experienced this "slipping" effect. i use the entire spool of braid, and i do something that not many guys do. after i use the braid for a couple of months, i will then spool another reel with the "old braid" so that when i get to the end of the spool i am taking off, it is "new" line for the other reel. i hope that made sense. virtually giving you 2 quality spools of braid for the price of one.

[craww]

As already stated, I use whatever cheap mono I have for the purpose of my being able to spool another reel with braid. Say you by a 125 yard pony spool, you should be able to spool two reels (depending on diameter of braid and the reel itself) with that for bass fishing. If you buy a 300 yarder, this will spool 5 reels or so, maybe 6 if you wish.

[Stasher1]

As already stated, I use whatever cheap mono I have for the purpose of my being able to spool another reel with braid. Say you by a 125 yard pony spool, you should be able to spool two reels (depending on diameter of braid and the reel itself) with that for bass fishing. If you buy a 300 yarder, this will spool 5 reels or so, maybe 6 if you wish.

Your idea is sound, but it's not worth the time/aggravation, imho.

Personally, I think people get too hung up on the cost of braid vs. mono. I (like many others here) spend way more each year on lures that'll never touch the water than I do on fishing line, so the price difference between one type of line and another is a non-issue for me. I do about a half-dozen wraps of mono for backing, tie my braid to it with a uni-uni, and fill the rest of the spool with braid.

I like knowing that I can go fishing and snag a lure in a tree, break it off on a stump, cut out multiple wind knots, have a turtle steal my lure, etc and still not have to respool.

[craww]

It's really very minimal extra trouble. I should add that i use leaders, so i lose very very little line to breakoffs, retieing, abrasion, etc. I bought a 300 yard spool of braid 3 years ago thats kept 2 reels in use and i still have some on the filler spool.