Nosoup4u Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Has anyone tried this stuff yet? I headed out with it for the first time yesterday. It cast well, and I had no problem with knots, but I had trouble with it breaking somewhere around the bail on my spinning reel. The usual scenario was that after catching and reeling in a fish I would get my line again and find my jig falling in the water with about six feet of line on it. This line is tough, I can't cut it by biting it and it's even hard to cut with a dull pocket knife. I've never had a problem when using this rod and reel with mono. Anyone have an explanation? Quote
lefty Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 ive used it since it came out. even on the 6 lb test. have the 8 lb test spooled on one reel at all times dlfor finesse. i havent really broken off except when i forget to re tie my knots after catching a fish. i use higher end abu spinning gear. dont set your drag too tight and dont flip your bail by reeling the handle. manually flip it with your reel hand. i have a buddy who bas the same problem as you. i cant figure out why. i myself love it. Quote
lefty Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 ive used it since it came out. even on the 6 lb test. have the 8 lb test spooled on one reel at all times for finesse. i havent really broken off except when i forget to re tie my knots after catching a fish. i use higher end abu spinning gear. dont set your drag too tight and dont flip your bail by reeling the handle. manually flip it with your reel hand. i have a buddy who bas the same problem as you. i cant figure out why. i myself love it. Quote
Elegantly Wasted Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 My suspicion would be that you have something sharp, be it a knick in your bail wire or sharp protrusion of epoxy around your hook keeper etc., that is putting a small knick in the line causing the failures based on your description of repeated breaking at the bail wire. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted May 12, 2012 Global Moderator Posted May 12, 2012 Yep, sounds like you have something going on with your rod or reel that is cutting the line. I have a rod spooled with 8 and one with 12 and once you get a good knot tied you can't hardly break the stuff. It casts a mile and fishes much nicer than braid imo. Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted May 12, 2012 Super User Posted May 12, 2012 I have heard that nanofil has little to no abrasion resistance from a LOT of people. Never tried it myself though. Quote
craww Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Been fishing 6 or 8 (cant remember which) For 6 months. I love it. Casting distance was so improved I overcasted very often after switching from 15/4 braid. I use a 6lb cxx as a leader, and have had 0 knot issues. I throw it into wood and its hasnt shown any signs of use. Its darn good line as far as Im concerned. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted May 12, 2012 Global Moderator Posted May 12, 2012 I have heard that nanofil has little to no abrasion resistance from a LOT of people. Never tried it myself though. I've heard that too but I pulled a couple 4+lb fish out from under docks and across the metal support bars with the 8lb and had no problems. No visible fraying so I didn't even retie and it seemed fine. Quote
upperbear Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 what is the visiblity of this line looks line they can see it to good????? Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted May 13, 2012 Global Moderator Posted May 13, 2012 It's pretty bright white, but a short fluoro leader fixes visibility problems pretty easily and helps with abrasion resistance at the same time. Quote
Nosoup4u Posted May 14, 2012 Author Posted May 14, 2012 Maybe I just got a bad batch, but I tried it again with new backing and only about 100 feet on the spool. It broke on the first cast. It has never broken at a knot and I have no problem with this rod and reel with mono. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 IMO line visibility is given too much priority, especially low diameter line. If it gives you more confidence you can color a few feet with a sharpie or tie on a leader, which I do only for abbrasion resistance in mussel beds or so I can break off in extra snaggy terrain. Quote
outdoorsman110 Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 I don't care for Berkley line that much, I only use Big Game and 12lb Triline for my all around setups. I don't know about Nano Fill, I've bought TATSU and expensive line before.. Can anybody explain the pros and cons to nanofill? Quote
craww Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 It fishes similar to a braid would be the best way to start. At first its realy slick, casts unbelievably well. I mean really, really well. I was casting 1/16 crappie jigs really far on a rod that doesnt begin to load until it's over 1/8oz. It doesnt handle that great initally (better than flouro, but not like a traditonal braid). As time goes by, it handles and casts like a braid of similar diameter, losing a bit of distance but handling better. Its smoother than braid going through the guides. Its also extremely sensitive. I think if they'd up the diameter a bit the surf fisherman could use this line to absolutely launch their lures. From my 10 or so trips with it, I'm happy. Got on a really good buzzbait bite saturday using the line and it really helped me cover water thanks to the casting distance. Didnt catch any big fish, mostly males still close to the bank. But I did drag them through and over laydowns and brush quite a bit, zero signs of wear on the line. Overall the pros outweigh the cons for me. Is it gonna make me take all the PP off my spinning reels? No. But in my experience it hasnt been the junk ppl say it is. Spool it TIGHT. Tie good knots. And use a leader if you wish. Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted May 15, 2012 Super User Posted May 15, 2012 I plan to try it with a fluoro leader. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted May 15, 2012 Super User Posted May 15, 2012 It fishes similar to a braid would be the best way to start. Not to be confrontational, but I think NanoFil behaves more like a monofilament than any braided PE line I've fished. I consider this trait to be a definite "pro". oe Quote
craww Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 I can see where your coming from, especially with the handling. I still think it acts more like a superline due to the thin diameter/strength, low stretch, floating, tight line sensitivity, etc. It definetely is smoother than PE lines. Either way, I think we both can agree its a good line. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted May 15, 2012 Super User Posted May 15, 2012 Either way, I think we both can agree its a good line. Two decades ago (yes decades) when I first began using Fireline and would converse (argue) about it's attributes when compared to the "then king of lines" nylon monofilament, I was accosted with "it's much too limp, doesn't telegraph bites and fishes like kite string". I find it refreshing that now I'm defending a PE line that "fishes more closely to a nylon monofilament line" than any of the other popular PE lines. Eventually the line manufacturers may stumble across the perfect line... till then NanoFil is a pretty good compromise. Yes, we agree. oe Quote
bigdawg74 Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 i dont have much line experiance but i whent from spider wire mono 10 to nanofil 8 and it cast way further with nanofil. Quote
Super User LgMouthGambler Posted July 19, 2012 Super User Posted July 19, 2012 Berkley needs to stick to making rods. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted July 19, 2012 Global Moderator Posted July 19, 2012 Berkley needs to stick to making rods. Right, because Berkley doesn't have any popular line ups other than their rods, especially not powerbait, Gulp, or Trilene 1 Quote
Super User LgMouthGambler Posted July 19, 2012 Super User Posted July 19, 2012 Right, because Berkley doesn't have any popular line ups other than their rods, especially not powerbait, Gulp, or Trilene Haha, oops I forgot about their baits, duh. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted July 19, 2012 Super User Posted July 19, 2012 Haha, oops I forgot about their baits, duh. Berkley also was the seed company that became Pure Fishing which now includes Berkley, Spiderwire, Stren, 7-strand, Abu Garcia, Pfluegar, Fenwick (and possibly Penn). Not a bad organization, wouldn't you say? oe Quote
Super User LgMouthGambler Posted July 19, 2012 Super User Posted July 19, 2012 Berkley also was the seed company that became Pure Fishing which now includes Berkley, Spiderwire, Stren, 7-strand, Abu Garcia, Pfluegar, Fenwick (and possibly Penn). Not a bad organization, wouldn't you say? oe Not really a fan of most of them, but sure. Quote
moguy1973 Posted July 19, 2012 Posted July 19, 2012 I had 8lb nanofil on my spinning setup and I hated it. True it cast super far, and it was really sensitive, but I found it to be really weak. Several times I would get snagged and before I had a chance to turn my kayak around to get it unsnagged it would snap instantly. It even snapped a few times throwing topwater lures. Maybe I had a bad batch? I don't know, but for the price of it ($19.99 for 120yds) I'd rather go with a good mono or a good copolymer line...I've read other reviews, particularly on BPS's website where others have had the same snapping issues I had. Quote
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