Super User slonezp Posted May 9, 2012 Super User Posted May 9, 2012 http://youtu.be/-dM0ZLCHCBs Quote
ChrisAW Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 If he speared any of those bass in Texas, he has a lot of evidence of doing something illegal right there. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted May 9, 2012 Super User Posted May 9, 2012 Carp I can understand, but bass?? Quote
Super User slonezp Posted May 9, 2012 Author Super User Posted May 9, 2012 I'm guessing it was in Mexico. Unless he's that stupid??? Quote
Super User tomustang Posted May 9, 2012 Super User Posted May 9, 2012 If he speared any of those bass in Texas, he has a lot of evidence of doing something illegal right there. I wouldn't doubt its illegal in many states Quote
Super User slonezp Posted May 9, 2012 Author Super User Posted May 9, 2012 Ibelieve spearfishing gamefish is illegal in all states unless you are american indian. Quote
ChrisAW Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 I'm guessing it was in Mexico. Unless he's that stupid??? He does say Lake Austin in the description. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted May 9, 2012 Author Super User Posted May 9, 2012 He also says in valle de bravo mexico Quote
Super User tomustang Posted May 9, 2012 Super User Posted May 9, 2012 Ibelieve spearfishing gamefish is illegal in all states unless you are american indian. It depends on the species, up in erie (pa law) you can non-mechanically spearfish for burbot to a certain depth Quote
Missouribassman95 Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 If he's in America I hope he gets caught. Quote
Super User Bassn Blvd Posted May 10, 2012 Super User Posted May 10, 2012 It wouldn't be the first some idiot got arrested after posting their crime on Youtube. If he's in Mexico, then hopefuly he'll have a run in with one of the CARTELS who might have a passion for Bass. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted May 10, 2012 Super User Posted May 10, 2012 He needs to be reported.....he was doing it in Mexico and U.S. is what is mentioned in his youtube description. Quote
flippin and pitchin Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 I'm for chipping in and getting a plane ticket so he can try his skill in the everglades. Spear fishers taste like chicken. Quote
outdoorsman110 Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 I reported the video to the TPWD this morning. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 I have not found a state yet that allows spearing of Smallmouth, Largemouth, and KY's. I havent researched all states though. Arkansas has the most seasons for many species of fish but the above 3 are illegal to spear in all states I have researched. Quote
fowlskies Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 I guess I'm the lone wolf on this one...If he was in his legal limits who cares. It definately looks as though he was in Mexico, did you notice the help in some of the clips and the general landscape gives the feeling of Mexico. I don't see the difference of the avg fisherman catching his limit of 5 with a line and pole or diving in and getting your limit with a speargun. As long as their not depleting the fishery its not that big of a deal to me. Don't get me wrong I haven't ever done this myself since its illegal where i live but if it weren't and I had the means I'd probally try it, it seems like a pretty thrilling way to catch some fish. Again I'll put the disclaimer out there as long as this type of fishing wasn't depleting the fishery. I throw most of what I catch back, but if I feel like a fresh fish dinner that night I have no problem keeping my limit and bringing them home. There's a reason for a limit, it affords you the ability to eat what you catch but not deplete the fishery at the same time. I guess I've never got the disconnect of the fisherman who catches a nice fish takes a picture and throws it back but in the fall shoots a nice buck butchers it up to eat and mounts the rack on his wall. Why doesn't he shoot it with a tranquillizer take some pictures and let it live to breed some more shooter bucks? Why? Because at that point he has probally already bred quite a few does that have passed his genetics to their fawn that one day will be a good buck. I see it quite the same with fishing, that 4-5 lber has passed on his genes quite a few times, so if I have the hankering for a nice filet that night for dinner I don't second guess putting him on my stringer. If this wasn't the case you would see a lot more fisheries with slot limits instead of minimum limits. I know my view is in the minority but to each their own. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 10, 2012 Super User Posted May 10, 2012 Fish genetics aren't the same as deer genetics. A 5 lb. bass was one of a million that made it. Quote
Jacob34 Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Spear fishing is legal from the 1st Sat of June thru Nov. 30th at specified lakes here in Utah. What's even worse than that video above is watching videos of 30lb+ lake trout being speared while spawning during the fall. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted May 10, 2012 Super User Posted May 10, 2012 Spear fishing is legal from the 1st Sat of June thru Nov. 30th at specified lakes here in Utah. What's even worse than that video above is watching videos of 30lb+ lake trout being speared while spawning during the fall. Does that include bass? I thought Certain fish was off limit. If it's legal,then it's legal by all means nothing anybody can do about it. I guess I'm the lone wolf on this one...If he was in his legal limits who cares. It definately looks as though he was in Mexico, did you notice the help in some of the clips and the general landscape gives the feeling of Mexico. I don't see the difference of the avg fisherman catching his limit of 5 with a line and pole or diving in and getting your limit with a speargun. As long as their not depleting the fishery its not that big of a deal to me. Don't get me wrong I haven't ever done this myself since its illegal where i live but if it weren't and I had the means I'd probally try it, it seems like a pretty thrilling way to catch some fish. Again I'll put the disclaimer out there as long as this type of fishing wasn't depleting the fishery. I throw most of what I catch back, but if I feel like a fresh fish dinner that night I have no problem keeping my limit and bringing them home. There's a reason for a limit, it affords you the ability to eat what you catch but not deplete the fishery at the same time. I guess I've never got the disconnect of the fisherman who catches a nice fish takes a picture and throws it back but in the fall shoots a nice buck butchers it up to eat and mounts the rack on his wall. Why doesn't he shoot it with a tranquillizer take some pictures and let it live to breed some more shooter bucks? Why? Because at that point he has probally already bred quite a few does that have passed his genetics to their fawn that one day will be a good buck. I see it quite the same with fishing, that 4-5 lber has passed on his genes quite a few times, so if I have the hankering for a nice filet that night for dinner I don't second guess putting him on my stringer. If this wasn't the case you would see a lot more fisheries with slot limits instead of minimum limits. I know my view is in the minority but to each their own. I don't have a problem with it on the most part specially if it's legal. But I was pretty sure bass spear fishing here is Illegal. If it's Illegal it's wrong....period. Because he mentioned Lake Austin which IS in U.S. I know tons of people who keep walleyes on inland lakes during it's off season...I won't hesitate to report them. I love eating walleyes,but I still gotta follow the laws too. Quote
Jacob34 Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Any fish in that particular body of water is fair game, The body of water I'm talking about in particular is Flaming George Res. It has Rainbow trout, Brown Trout, Lake trout,Burbot and Smallmouth Bass. There are fifteen bodies of water listed and nine of them have either Small mouth, Large mouth or Wipers (White bass Striped bass hybrid.) The only fish species you can't target are Tiger Muskies at Pineview Res. I don't really have a problem as long as their withing legal limits and following the law. It just sickens me to see them target big lake trout while their trying to spawn. A lot of the spear fishermen don't target them during the spawn out of respect for the fish, but still it happens way too much I think. Most people don't realize how many years it takes a Lake Trout to grow to that size. Quote
fowlskies Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Fish genetics aren't the same as deer genetics. A 5 lb. bass was one of a million that made it. You have a good point but over here in the Adirondacks a nice B&C buck is one in a million but you never see anyone chastise someone for shooting one. Instead they are put on a pedistal, make every local hunting forum and receive praise from everyone in the hunting community. Another example is a piebald deer (I can't even fathom the percentage of their occurance), a couple of them were taken this past season down in the Albany area (one by a tennage girl that everyone was excited for) and no-one looked down on them for pulling the trigger. I'm not arguing I just don't see the disconnect and to stay on point as long as the guy is within his legal limit and following local game laws I have no problem in what manner he takes his quarry. I wouldn't take home a limit of 5 lbers but one or two a season isn't going to hurt the fishery. I grew up and live in the Lake George area, if you go into any of the local guide shops their walls are filled with pictures of people with their trophy fish and the lake isn't hurting in either category of size or amount of fish that call that body of water home. The same applies for other local bodies in my area such as the Hudson, Lake Champlain or the Sacandaga Res. I mention my local area b/c A: its a tourist trap where tons of "out-of-towners" come and keep their prized catch and B: I see you're from Rochester so I assume you know the bodies of water I'm referencing. I realize I'm the ugly duckling in this debate, but again I'm not trying to argue its more out of being surprised that in 20+ posts I'm the only one that feels this way. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 10, 2012 Super User Posted May 10, 2012 Hunting and fishing don't equate, man. There is no option to release a hunted animal. There is for fishing. If you want to catch and keep bass you catch on a hook and line, it's your right once you purchase a fishing license. I'm pretty sure spearing bass is a no-no in NY. Quote
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