grizzly1654 Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Ive been looking at a St. Croix mojo 6' 8" m xf rod for my new spinning setup. I noticed that they make the Legend Tournament in the same configuration. I have several rods similar in quality and have never owned one of the higher end rods. Is the quality of the rod worth the $140 difference? If the sensitivity is alot better i may have to try one out. Quote
Stasher1 Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 They also offer that same length/power/action in the Avid line as well. I haven't owned an LTB, but I have owned the Mojo and Avid versions and there's a huge difference in weight and sensitivity between the two. Overall, there's a huge difference between the Mojo lineup and the Avids, but I've read in numerous places that the difference between the Avid and the LTB isn't as noticeable. Quote
Jacob34 Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 I've had the opportunity to fish with a couple different Mojo rods and the pleasure to fish with a couple legend tourneys and legend extremes. My tournament companion last year throws ST. Croix extensively. To me the legend Tournament is well worth the extra cost. It's a lot more responsive compared to the mojo and also better balanced and I was amazed at the difference between the two with bottom contact baits. It just boils down to how much you're willing to spend on one particular rod. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted May 8, 2012 Global Moderator Posted May 8, 2012 I have both of the rods you listed. I had the Mojo orginally and then picked up the LTB after a couple consecutive tournaments wins. There really is no comparison. I caught plenty of fish with my Mojo but the LTB is lighter, more sensitive, and better built. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted May 8, 2012 Super User Posted May 8, 2012 As someone who owns both Mojo's and Legend Tournament's, and specificly that exact Mojo rod your looking at..........you can't go wrong with either........BUT if money is not an issue go with the LT. OR middle it and go Rage/Avid. That is probably my most versitle spinning rod, and if I could only have one it would be that one. I have had mine since the Mojo's first came out, ZERO problems with it, sensitivity or balance is not an issue...for me...I use 15lb braid with fluoro. leaders, and a 9 oz + Shimano Sedona on it. I guess if I used mono, or a feather light reel like the Ci4 it might not feel as sensitive or balanced, but like I said the way I have it set up is not an issue for me. I can't compair it directly to any of my LT's as I don't own the LT in that blank.....but in general the LT's have better blanks, guides, are a touch lighter..........but to be honest, I think the finish on the Mojos is more durable. Quote
grizzly1654 Posted May 8, 2012 Author Posted May 8, 2012 Thanks for the feedback guys. Looks like my new spinning rod is gonna be a Legend! Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted May 8, 2012 Super User Posted May 8, 2012 For what purpose will the rod be used,,in what conditions? The reason for asking St Croix bargain room still has LTBS69MLXF spinning rod for $161 Medium-Light XF 6-10# line 1/8-1/2oz lure I use a ML Avid and its a very nice power uses wacky senko, small cranks, 1/8 jig/craw, 1/8-1/4oz spinnerbaits. Most my time is spent open water just grass weeds to deal with no other structure. If this going to be your main rod for heavier presentations more cover then scratch the above. Quote
grizzly1654 Posted May 8, 2012 Author Posted May 8, 2012 Yea this is gonna my main spinning rod. Mostly flukes, wacky rigs and the occasional drop shot. But at that price i might have to check that out! Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted May 9, 2012 Super User Posted May 9, 2012 Yea this is gonna my main spinning rod. Mostly flukes, wacky rigs and the occasional drop shot. But at that price i might have to check that out! If thats what your going to use the rod for, IMHO stay with the 6'8" M/XF rod in the series of your choice. If you go the other way around with dropshotting being the primary use, with the other stuff on occasion then the 6'9" ML/XF might be the better rod. I also have a ML St Croix (Avid 7' ML/F) and while a great drop shot rod, it's not what I would want in a "general purpose" spinning rod, but the 6'8' M/XF is. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted May 9, 2012 Super User Posted May 9, 2012 I own the 69mlxf legend extreme and have fished a partners 68mxf. Id choose the 69 mlxf anyday. However for uour multi purpose i would choose the 6'8 for wjat you want. Quote
Michael DiNardo Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 The Mojo compared to an LTB is not fair. But when it comes to the Avid, I actually like them more than the Legends without even considering the price. Mike Quote
jerzeeD Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 I have that exact mojo rod with a 35 size pflueger president xt as my plastics rod. It is a very good rod... Especially for the 100 dollars it cost. That being said, if I didnt have a kid on the way and other bills, I would be fishing the Legend. Beautiful rod. Like others have said, the Avid is an excellent choice. I am waiting to find a 6'8" M/XF Avid for about 155-160 dollars new. I will jump on it because I at least feel like I got a deal good enough to not pass up! Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 They also offer that same length/power/action in the Avid line as well. I haven't owned an LTB, but I have owned the Mojo and Avid versions and there's a huge difference in weight and sensitivity between the two. Overall, there's a huge difference between the Mojo lineup and the Avids, but I've read in numerous places that the difference between the Avid and the LTB isn't as noticeable. x2 - The Avid is the best bang for the buck. As you go up the ladder in any line the differences between models narrows a bit. Quote
Globadoc Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Has anyone tried the new Rage 6'8" MXF yet? How does it compare to the Avid or Mojo? Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted May 9, 2012 Global Moderator Posted May 9, 2012 I have a 6' 10" ML/F Rage spinning rod and like it really well for wacky rigs/dropshotting. It's a sensitive rod with good backbone but a soft tip to help load and toss lighter baits a long ways. I really don't think you could go wrong with any of the rods you're considering, it's going to be a matter of what you can spend and personal preference for you. If you can, go to a tackle store and hold a couple of them yourself, you may find you like one you didn't think you'd like or that you don't like one that you were going to get before. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted May 9, 2012 Super User Posted May 9, 2012 I have to ask, have you handled both of the LTs yet? The split handle on the new legend tournaments are different than the older models, I prefer the older handles compared to the SK split Quote
grizzly1654 Posted May 9, 2012 Author Posted May 9, 2012 I haven't handled either one yet. I've got a couple weeks to go check them out. My wife is going to get it for my birth day. Quote
jerzeeD Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 The rage is the same blank as the avid, so I am sure the sensitivity is a non-issue. But for me personally, The crappy guides are a deal breaker. If I am paying 150+ for a rod, it should have aluminum oxide inserts at minimum. I won't plop down that kind of cabbage for lightning rod guides. Quote
Capt.Bob Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Avid if you if you like full cork handles, I'm an old man and old fashion, just like the full cork and don't like the foam. So I am still lucking out. I always liked the Avid series, I have a couple Legend Elites and there great, but the buy of the century has alweays been the Avid line. Go with the Avid LTB LE or Rage and get a lifetime warranty only 5 years for the mojo, but still better than anyone else's. http://www.stcroixrods.com/shop/products/Legend_Tournament_Bass_Casting_Rod_LTBC68MXF-326-23.html $161.00 is less than the price on the Avid 68MXF, this a steel no doubt! Quote
ROCbass Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Has anyone tried the new Rage 6'8" MXF yet? How does it compare to the Avid or Mojo? I haven't fished it, but I was planning on this being my next spinning rod purchase. However, when I went to two different stores to check them out and could not find a single one that didn't have at least one crooked guide, i decided I would not be buying one anytime soon. Quote
Osprey39 Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 I might get some flak for this but I don't see any reason to spend more than $100-$125 on a single rod. Fishing is no different than most hobbies in that the manufacturers of equipment make stuff in all different price ranges because everyone has a different budget. I'm not saying the more expensive rods aren't better, they are or the manufacturers wouldn't be able to command those prices for them for very long. That said, shelling out $250 for a rod isn't going to make you a better fisherman any more than spending $2000 on a top of the line set of golf clubs will take you to a single digit handicap if you're a 20. By the same token, nobody will ever convince me that this reel http://www.cabelas.com/product/Fishing/Fishing-Reels/Casting-Reels%7C/pc/104793480/c/104760180/sc/104259780/Daiwa-Steez8482-Casting-Reel/739081.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Ffishing-fishing-reels-casting-reels%2Fdaiwa%2F_%2FN-1102352%2B1000003177%2B10000055%2FNe-10000055%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BBRprd739081%26WTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNU&WTz_l=SBC%3BBRprd739081%3Bcat104259780 will catch more fish than one that costs $150. If you can afford it, go for it but personally I'd rather buy two good rods than one very good one. That's just my personal preference though. Now as for the Mojo Bass rods, I don't have one of their spinning rods but I have about 5 of their casting rods and I am very happy with them. They fit in my budget and I still have money left to put gas in the truck and boat to get to the lake lol. Your budget may be bigger though and if so, I'm sure the Legend series is probably a better rod but again, the question I always ask myself is this: Is it twice as good? Usually the answer to that is no for me. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted May 10, 2012 Super User Posted May 10, 2012 I might get some flak for this but I don't see any reason to spend more than $100-$125 on a single rod. Fishing is no different than most hobbies in that the manufacturers of equipment make stuff in all different price ranges because everyone has a different budget. I'm not saying the more expensive rods aren't better, they are or the manufacturers wouldn't be able to command those prices for them for very long. That said, shelling out $250 for a rod isn't going to make you a better fisherman any more than spending $2000 on a top of the line set of golf clubs will take you to a single digit handicap if you're a 20. By the same token, nobody will ever convince me that this reel http://www.cabelas.c...81;cat104259780 will catch more fish than one that costs $150. If you can afford it, go for it but personally I'd rather buy two good rods than one very good one. That's just my personal preference though. Now as for the Mojo Bass rods, I don't have one of their spinning rods but I have about 5 of their casting rods and I am very happy with them. They fit in my budget and I still have money left to put gas in the truck and boat to get to the lake lol. Your budget may be bigger though and if so, I'm sure the Legend series is probably a better rod but again, the question I always ask myself is this: Is it twice as good? Usually the answer to that is no for me. while you do have a valid point that spending the extra cash won't really "make" you a better fisherman, it does come down to quality. before owning legend extremes and legend tournaments, i used to have some mojos bass rods. while they performed well, they were built less than what i would consider quality. each rod i owned had at least 3 guide inserts fall out while some had 5. this was from using 10-15 lb fluoro... without getting into a what's better and why you don't need to spend for a rod or why you do, i will just say i will 100% of the time pay twice the amount of money (St. Croix mojo vs St. Croix Legend tournament) for a rod that is built better and has a life time warranty vs a 5 year warranty. St. Croix's customer service is excellent as well. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 10, 2012 Super User Posted May 10, 2012 From someone that has used both, it's pretty silly comparing the two. they're not in the same zip code. The Avid and LTB are pretty close, but the Mojo is way down on the totem pole. I actaully don't recommend the Mojo series. Not impressed at all. They were a huge disappointment to me, not at all what I expected, having a dozen or so Avids. Quote
Stasher1 Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 From someone that has used both, it's pretty silly comparing the two. they're not in the same zip code. The Avid and LTB are pretty close, but the Mojo is way down on the totem pole. I actaully don't recommend the Mojo series. Not impressed at all. They were a huge disappointment to me, not at all what I expected, having a dozen or so Avids. x2 Not only is the Mojo nowhere near the LTB or Avid in sensitivity, they fall short of many of the other rods in the $100 range. I actually recommend the Triumph over the Mojo, as the sensitivity is more in line with many of the current $70 rods. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted May 10, 2012 Super User Posted May 10, 2012 . I actually recommend the Triumph over the Mojo, as the sensitivity is more in line with many of the current $70 rods. Well it's $80 now since they jacked the price up Quote
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