Frog Misses!!!! NOOOO!!!!!

[Gangley]

Castaway CTX at Academy for $50. Great rod for frogging.

The cherry woods are BRITTLE.  Don't bang the tip on anything, it will break off in a hurry.  Broke mine before I ever got to fish with it.  If you can keep from breaking the rod, they are actually decent.  However it is when, not if, it will break that you will need to be concerned with.

[Bass Junkie]

  Alrighty, I'll have to check out the Megastrike. Thanks for the help. Also, Does bendin' the hooks up a bit really help as much as people say???

[Furbit]

Bending the hooks a little bit does help, just don't get carried away. Also on them Spros shorten the skirt up some may help. I actually cut at least a inch or more off the Spro's.

You don't have to spend a fortune on a frog rod, although it does help to have a rod made for frog fishing, but you can find a 7ft MH to heavy rod under 50 bucks to get you by, but I have to agree with most a med action rod is not going to land you many frog bass.

As far as waiting goes, before setting the hook, I have had days where a quick hook set worked but others where waiting several seconds was the ticket. If the bass really wants the frog and you added some megastrike to help out, he will hold on longer then you can possibly stand it. I would start with a slow 3 count and go from there.

[mrlitetackle]

i see a lot of people saying the you need a heavier rod for froggin'......

i can attest that my rod is 7' and md. lite power (fast act.)....

i use suffix braid 8/30...

and love to toss rage toads....

no problems here, even with lighter tackle....

trust me, my rod is flimsy ..... most on this site would never use what ive got...

but it makes it more fun for me!!!!

just wait a second or two longer after the strike,

and what i do with the light rod i use, is instead of an all at once hookset..... slightly load the rod first, then let'em have nice and hard....

with the braided line, easy hooksets are no problem at all.... even with lighter rods.....

and when i say slightly,

i do mean just a very little!!

[Bass Junkie]

  Your rod wouldn't happen to be a Shimano Convergance, would it???

[mrlitetackle]

Posted by: Bass Junkie      Posted on: Today at 8:21pm

 Your rod wouldn't happen to be a Shimano Convergance, would it???

nope......

its either one of the two, depending on what setup im using....

either a BPS microlite 7' md lite

or a Cabella's fish eagle II 7' md lite

(though for now it will be the BPS until i get my replacement from cabella's, cause im a total idiot and broke the tip off)

[scaledriver]

Wait until you feel the weight of the bass & then set hook like you're trying to break something

Ahhh.........My weak point. I have problems thinkin' the bass will detect the fact that hes just grabbed a hunk of rubber instead of froggy, especially in the open water situations when they don't have to sort the main course out from the salad. Is this a legit worry??? What can I do to prevent this???

I have been using Spro frogs most all summer and doing very well with them. Honestly I was very suprised how long the Bass will keep it in their mouth. Be patient you should have plenty of time.

[iceintheveins]

You just need a heavy action rod with lots of power. I would upgrade from the 30 pound braid to at least 50 pound braid.

[Bass Junkie]

   Why upgrade my line? I've held bass in lilly pad fields for 2-3 minutes while we rowed the boat to the fish because the pads and hydrilla were to much for the motor. I've als pulled THICK swimbait hooks out. 30lb. is plenty strong for  me.........

[NOVA Angler]

i see a lot of people saying the you need a heavier rod for froggin'......

i can attest that my rod is 7' and md. lite power (fast act.)....

i use suffix braid 8/30...

and love to toss rage toads....

no problems here, even with lighter tackle....

trust me, my rod is flimsy ..... most on this site would never use what ive got...

but it makes it more fun for me!!!!

just wait a second or two longer after the strike,

and what i do with the light rod i use, is instead of an all at once hookset..... slightly load the rod first, then let'em have nice and hard....

with the braided line, easy hooksets are no problem at all.... even with lighter rods.....

and when i say slightly,

i do mean just a very little!!

A Rage Toad is different than a Spro Frog.  Even still, your nuts if you think that's a good setup.

[Gangley]

30 lbs is fine, no reason to go higher unless you are fishing in underwater trees and HEAVY debris

[tyrius.]

A Rage Toad is different than a Spro Frog. Even still, your nuts if you think that's a good setup.

If it works for him and he has fun fishing it, then it's a good setup.

I grew up fishing a ML spinning setup for everything.  It was the only rod I had and I had fairly good luck with plastic frogs over the moss beds in the pond farms that I fished.

[Bass Junkie]

  A 7ft. 1pc. ML Shimano Convergance with 30lb. power pro is all I used for over a year with ribbits and the like. Works great.

[rubba bubba]

A Rage Toad is different than a Spro Frog. Even still, your nuts if you think that's a good setup.

If it works for him and he has fun fishing it, then it's a good setup.

Agree. I have and still use an Avid MM 7' rod with great success - both with toads and senkos. It's a blast.

[bassmasterb007]

what kind of hooks are you using?bait keepers,ewg,double frog hook?I use a med rod and use a double frog hook,and when i feel a tug i use a light sweep hook set.maybe your hook set is to hard.ripping it out of the basses mouth.hope this helps

[David P]

I can't stand the Spro frogs. I've used them maybe twice ever, and hear quite a few stories about poor hook up.

I have never had a single issue with a Snag Proof perfect frog, and would highly advise trying one.

Keep one thing in mind, it's not ALWAYS your fault, or the frogs fault. There are times where the fish will only pop it in the air, or will try to only suck it down but miss the hooks. The time it is the frogs fault or yours, is when the fish fully takes the bait. If you hook a fish, you certainly should not lose it, that doesn't sound right.

 Make sure you're using the proper gear, 50-65lb braid (I use 65), a high gear ratio reel 7:1 will help but isn't a must, and also a good stout rod. I use a 7'3 6power (XH) rod. I also use an 8ft heavy rod for some frogging needs.

Good luck.

[mrlitetackle]

Posted by: NOVA Angler

A Rage Toad is different than a Spro Frog.  Even still, your nuts if you think that's a good setup.

as i said, most here will think that im crazy!!!!!

either way, it works for me..... and well i might add...

so for me, yes, it is a good setup....

for others,

likely not.

[RoLo]

i see a lot of people saying the you need a heavier rod for froggin'......

i can attest that my rod is 7' and md. lite power (fast act.)....

i use suffix braid 8/30...

and love to toss rage toads....

no problems here, even with lighter tackle....

trust me, my rod is flimsy ..... most on this site would never use what ive got...

but it makes it more fun for me!!!!

just wait a second or two longer after the strike,

and what i do with the light rod i use, is instead of an all at once hookset..... slightly load the rod first, then let'em have nice and hard....

with the braided line, easy hooksets are no problem at all.... even with lighter rods.....

and when i say slightly,

i do mean just a very little!!

A Rage Toad is different than a Spro Frog. Even still, your nuts if you think that's a good setup.

Jeez...the man's handle is "Mrlitetackle", that should provide your first clue.

Fishing rules are made to broken, and I for one respect any angler who favors light tackle.

For many years, I fished with nothing heavier than stretchy 8-lb Trilene XL, before polyethylene braid made the scene.

As distinguished from a "meat fisherman", the light-tackle enthusiast is an angler who places pleasure above all else.

Best of all, light-tackle has a tendency to enhance rather than suppress your production of lunker fish.

Roger

[ChiCityBasser]

Ok tried my Spro frog again tonight and a fish hit it and took it under and again I got a missile coming back at me. I waited a couple seconds and guess I will try another brand of frog as well cause no hookups is frustrating and its the Spro Jr frog.

My setup is a 6'6" MH Cabelas XMLTi with a Quantum Energy PT 6.3:1 with 12lbs Trilene Mono

[Dan:]

Missing hooksets is part of fishing frogs. Waiting a few seconds and setting the hook hard is all you can do.

[ChiCityBasser]

Missing hooksets is part of fishing frogs. Waiting a few seconds and setting the hook hard is all you can do.

Thanks Dan and I'll keep at it cause I know I'll get it right soon enough and not like I have never missed a hookset with a crankbait and given up on them  

[championmayday]

Ok tried my Spro frog again tonight and a fish hit it and took it under and again I got a missile coming back at me. I waited a couple seconds and guess I will try another brand of frog as well cause no hookups is frustrating and its the Spro Jr frog.

My setup is a 6'6" MH Cabelas XMLTi with a Quantum Energy PT 6.3:1 with 12lbs Trilene Mono

ive been having your same problems with the spro, i think ill stick with my snagproof frog never had any problems with it.

[bandsr4me20]

id get this rod for 10 dollars more

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_44304_100002006_100000000_100002000_100-2-6

[nickw234]

When the fish takes the frog should I reel in slack then set the hook or let the fish take the line then set the hook?

[DINK WHISPERER]

When the fish takes the frog should I reel in slack then set the hook or let the fish take the line then set the hook?

There should not really be much slack man! At least not when i fish a frog. Whether it is a Rage Tail or a Spro i always keep my tip down.