NorCalFishinguru Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 I bought the flippin model and dropshot model a couple weeks ago and overall im not too impressed. Ive caught a few fish on both and can honestly say that they will stick more fish than gamakatsus and really dig into the fishes mouth due to the suuuuper sharp triangle point but for now there are other problems. On the flipping hook, which end up being $2.50 each, the shrink tube barb seems to be glued on and slipped on a few of my hooks. ill have to buy some quality shrinkwrap seperately now. The eyes arent welded so youll probably break off if you tie a snell knot for punch fishing with braid. The dropshot hooks feature an offset shank and, to my surprise, a dowturned eye. Any expert dropshotters have an explanation for this? it was difficult to make the hook ride straight up as proper so i took some pliers to bend the eye up and *snap*. Figured maybe too much carbon or something in the formula. tried the same thing with a new hook and this time was successful in bending the eye upwards and allowing it to ride straight up and hook em right in the top of the mouth this evening. Im kinda bummed about the inconsistency between the hooks of the same packs for the top $ price point. Another thing i was thinking of today was how all the hype of the points being crafted identical to surgical needles. As far as i know medical professionals do not re-use needles(granted mostly for hygienic reasons) and it seems that these hooks arent any different and are extremely difficult to resharpen. I thought the triangle design would make it easier but its veeery difficult to resharpen these guys once they loose their edge. I can get a dull gammi back to a razor point in a few strokes. Last note; theyre manufactured under eagle claw. Hopefully youve never had the misfortune of running out of decent hooks and resorting to wal mart eagle claw lazer sharp hooks and missing fish after fish. Honestly i think the $10 goes more towards the advertisement, flashy labeling, and big name sponsorships.What do you guys think? Quote
andamtoft Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 thanks for a first hand review of these hooks, i was looking into getting some but was hesitant due to the price, i will now save my money and stick with my gammies, thanks again! Quote
bassdoctor88 Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 I tried them too. I will stick to gammies or owner. Trokar are similar to owner which are half the price. Quote
-nick- Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 I saw them then did this number right here.. I didn't think anyone would pay that much for hooks. I haven't had any problems with what I'm using to the point where it would drive me to spend 2.50 on a single hook. Quote
NorCalFishinguru Posted November 27, 2009 Author Posted November 27, 2009 Yea, well it was buy two packs get a free t sirt at bass jam and the $200 in cash spending money went to my head a bit, haha. Luckyly i put $119 of it towards a lamiglas excel bass rod Quote
paul. Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 thanks for posting this. i was thinking about trying some out and now i won't. especially at the price they're charging. seems like eagle claw/wright and mcgill is trying to improve their reputation a little. i saw some of those fancy yellow wright and mcgill skeet reese rods at gander mtn. look real nice cosmetically, but they seemed a bit heavy and not very sensitive at all. even at that i might have tried one if the price wasn't $99. you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. ;D Quote
Super User Catt Posted November 27, 2009 Super User Posted November 27, 2009 Nothing can outperform Mustad's Denny Brauer Straight Shank Flipping Hook P/N: 32807BLNU32 and I can get 5 for what you paid for 1 Quote
-HAWK- Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Tried them, don't like them. They are weak in comparison to Owner hooks. Yet cost twice as much. Quote
Primus Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Thanks, it looks like you saved me a lot of money. Quote
DEbassman17 Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 I wouldn't even pay a dollar a hook, I'll stick with gammies and the occasional owner. Quote
zbass Posted November 29, 2009 Posted November 29, 2009 Nothing can outperform Mustad's Denny Brauer Straight Shank Flipping Hook P/N: 32807BLNU32 and I can get 5 for what you paid for 1 X2 But I do like a BMFH too. Quote
midnighthrasher Posted November 29, 2009 Posted November 29, 2009 I used Gamakatsu all summer and never had a problem so I will definitely stick to them. I also tried Owners and liked them alot too. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted November 29, 2009 Super User Posted November 29, 2009 My big question why twice,3X the price? I don't get it....I lose enough hooks in one outing.I don't think I'd be able to afford them all season long. I'll stick to owner hooks. Quote
NorCalFishinguru Posted November 29, 2009 Author Posted November 29, 2009 They're super pricey because they are the world's sharpest. Im pretty sure it's all mechanical sharpening, no chemicals. They go through the same process that surgical needles do. In reality i think the price is because they're the only of their kind on the market, are expensive to make, and have flashy labeling/packaging. Not to mention sponsorships.... Quote
NorCalFishinguru Posted November 29, 2009 Author Posted November 29, 2009 95% of my hooks are gamakatsu's but i think I may start switching over to owner. I'll try the cutting point models a little more and see how they perform. I think they're a lot harder to resharpen than gamakatsu's so im not completely set Quote
Super User Bassin_Fin@tic Posted November 29, 2009 Super User Posted November 29, 2009 95% of my hooks are gamakatsu's but i think I may start switching over to owner. I'll try the cutting point models a little more and see how they perform. I think they're a lot harder to resharpen than gamakatsu's so im not completely set You cant really resharpen owner cutting points but they also hold and edge a whole lot longer than other hooks and the knife like point will go through the top of a hogs bony jaw like lukes lightsaber. Personally I think the top brand hooks we have now are about as good as a fish hook will ever be and there can't be any justified reason to pay that much more for something else.As long as there are people that can afford whatever the heck they want in this world there will always be luxury products that are way overpriced and no better. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted November 29, 2009 Super User Posted November 29, 2009 95% of my hooks are gamakatsu's but i think I may start switching over to owner. I'll try the cutting point models a little more and see how they perform. I think they're a lot harder to resharpen than gamakatsu's so im not completely set I am glad to see I'm not the only one that still sharpens hooks.8-)Many, if not most who post here will just replace a hook that is dull. I also use Gammy hooks which only need an occasional touch-up. Works for me. Quote
Super User Catt Posted November 29, 2009 Super User Posted November 29, 2009 My big question why twice,3X the price? I don't get it....I lose enough hooks in one outing.I don't think I'd be able to afford them all season long.I'll stick to owner hooks. 100% marketing BS Quote
Gangley Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 I have pulled numerous Owners out from between the eyes of bass, and have very rarely had to change one out because it became dull. I will generally lose a hook to a snag before I lose one to dullness. Granted, after a few sets between the eyes and through the middle of the tough stuff, they aren't as sharp as they were straight out of the box, but they are still plenty sharp to get the job done and then some. I simply cant justify the price tag of the Trokar, regardless of ability, when I already have something that works extremely well, and is generally hung-up and lost before it ever becomes too dull to use. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted November 30, 2009 Super User Posted November 30, 2009 i buy matzuo hooks at kmart for $2.50 per 6 pack.they work for me. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted November 30, 2009 Super User Posted November 30, 2009 95% of my hooks are gamakatsu's but i think I may start switching over to owner. I'll try the cutting point models a little more and see how they perform. I think they're a lot harder to resharpen than gamakatsu's so im not completely set OWNER CUTTING POINT are the best hooks period ............ 8-) Quote
Super User fishfordollars Posted December 1, 2009 Super User Posted December 1, 2009 Thanks for posting the review. I'll just stick with my Mustad. I ain't scared to use a sharpening rock. Quote
hokiefisherman93 Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 I saw those hooks the other day and was very tempted to buy them and try them out, but after reading this I realize they aint worth the money ha. I, like others, will stick to my gammies as well!!! Quote
Super User David P Posted December 1, 2009 Super User Posted December 1, 2009 For regular hooks, I see no reason to even think about purchasing these hooks. However, I have been unsatisfied with every punching hook out on the market, so I did purchase a pack of the punch hooks. The hooks are extremely sharp, but TOO sharp. First fish - 2lbs - The very tip of the hook bent up and hook was ruined. Tied on another hook. 2lber - Hook ok. Then another 2lber, hook tip bent. I bent 3 hook tips on 5 fish all under 3lbs. I threw the rest away. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted December 1, 2009 Super User Posted December 1, 2009 Wow! That's quite a review...Thank you. -Kent Quote
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