sambrochill Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 I'm so excited because today was of course black friday and i went to basspro to find that they were havin great deals till about one and that they now carry the Jackall Giron as well as a few of the other great plastics and crankbaits that they produce. But i would like to know what are some really good techniques and where should i fish the Giron? I'm really excited to own this lure and i really cant wait to fish it. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted November 27, 2009 Super User Posted November 27, 2009 I bought one for specifically one purpose: to catch bedding bass and it works. I only use a flipping presentation for a soft entry past the bed and then work it slowly to the bed and let it sink. It rests on the hooks while sitting upright. Quote
NorCalFishinguru Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Looks like a nice prespawn searchbait. I like the orange belly bluegill. I'd probably throw it in the shallows where fish might be staging or weedlines where bluegill can be easily ambushed. Try to find cover and structure where bluegill might relate to, "bluegill highways" so to speak. Quote
Super User .dsaavedra. Posted November 27, 2009 Super User Posted November 27, 2009 so what kind of deal did you get on it? Quote
Super User Micro Posted November 27, 2009 Super User Posted November 27, 2009 The Giron is a good, but particular bait. You can fish it the way Wayne said. You can pitch it or flip it and let it sink. It sinks slowly, horizontally, and will rest on its hooks on the bottom. It is, however, a hard swim bait. I throw it on a 7' medium heavy/fast rod w/ 12 Yo-Zuri Hybrid on a 6.3:1 reel. It requires a moderate speed retrieve. It has a fairly wide action. Reeling it too slow and you don't get a great action. If you reel it too fast, it will roll over and over. A stop-and-go retrieve at medium speed is a good way to fish it. It's a high quality, beautifully detailed, bait with great hooks. But it is one you need to experiment with until you can present it well. Quote
paul. Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 agree with most of this except the part about reeling it slow. that's the way i fish this bait most of the time b/c that's the way i've caught most of my fish on it. imo, the bait looks very unnatural at med. to high retrieve speeds. i do like an occasional pause or twitch with my retrieve. but i ain't saying that anyone else is wrong. just my personal preference. i do think that the castaic catch 22 and the mattlures bluegill are better bluegill swimbaits. but again, that's just me. here's a giron vid. here you can see how unnatural the bait looks at high speeds, wildly swinging from side to side. you can tone this way down by just slowing your retrieve though. good luck with whatever you decide. http://www.***.com/videos/JG.html?pcode=JG Quote
Bass XL Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 agree with most of this except the part about reeling it slow. that's the way i fish this bait most of the time b/c that's the way i've caught most of my fish on it. imo, the bait looks very unnatural at med. to high retrieve speeds. i do like an occasional pause or twitch with my retrieve. but i ain't saying that anyone else is wrong. just my personal preference Couldnt agree more. I've had best results with this bait right at dusk with a stop and go retrieve right below the surface. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted November 28, 2009 Super User Posted November 28, 2009 another very good bluegill hard swimbait is the TYLURES SUNFISH , i just got one last week at the bass-a-thon , fished it the other night and it fishes great !! very good at ALL speeds , swims like MATTLURES hardgill . here is a link http://www.***.com/descpageTYSWIM-TKS5.html btw ,don't let the paint schemes fool you , in the water they look incredible !!!! Quote
sambrochill Posted November 28, 2009 Author Posted November 28, 2009 so what kind of deal did you get on it? sadly, i did not get a deal on the giron =/ but i did get a few other things on special Quote
-nick- Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 I asked about this lure a month or 2 ago and was told to use it along weedlines and ambush points and as slow as possible. Once I started doing this I had much more success! Quote
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