Caver Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 What do you guys prefer when connecting your fluorocarbon leaders to your braid line? I've always used the double uni knot which has given me zero problems but always seems kinda bulky. Quote
Zoff Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 That's what I use. Never found a reason to change. Quote
POPRG Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 same here,fresh & saltwater,uni to uni has never failed me yet..albright looks nicer,a bit smaller,but i trust the double uni after all these years. Quote
Caver Posted April 27, 2012 Author Posted April 27, 2012 Right on, it has never failed me either, but I was just curious to see if someone thought there was something better. As always it seems it's not best to reinvent the wheel. Quote
Michael DiNardo Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 So do you cast this knot through the guides? Do you retie after so long? Sorry if these questions seem stupid, but I only use braid on my musky setups. Does this not wear the knot? Mike Quote
Dakota wendt Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 I was using the blood knot but I lost two baits with it broke at the knot or came undone not sure,so I'm trying the modified Albright knot it isn't to bulky I haven't fished it yet but if it doesn't work I'll have to try the uni to uni. For those of you with smart phones there is a knot wars app. That is pretty slick quite a few knots and a how to video for each one. Quote
WookieeJedi Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 I use Albright for any load-bearing line connection, even fly line. So far, so good. I retie if I hang up or catch a good fish. That may not be necessary,, but consider it an ounce of prevention. Quote
Caver Posted April 27, 2012 Author Posted April 27, 2012 So do you cast this knot through the guides? Do you retie after so long? Sorry if these questions seem stupid, but I only use braid on my musky setups. Does this not wear the knot? Mike I cast it through the guides. I usually tie a 2 foot leader and that's plenty for a day of changing out lures, reties, what have you. Quote
gobig Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 Alberto knot is all I use for joining braid to mono or floro. I throw $100.00 Swimbaits with this knot and I have not had one failure at the knot. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted April 27, 2012 Super User Posted April 27, 2012 I don't tie leader to line except when I target certain species that will cut you off at the swivel as quick as they will hit a lure, on those rare occasions I use an alberto knot, it's been flawless. When joining lines the alberto works real good but I usually tie my own version of a double clinch, which has been excellent for freshwater and inshore fishing. Offshore I do not join lines, if I need line it's a complete respool, I never use backing with braid. A knot at the hook and another at my swivel is all the weak links I want, just never know what you may run into. Nothing fancy on hook or swivel knots, ordinary clinch for a mono or leader connection, and I use an improved clinch with an extra wrap for braid connections, lures get a loop knot, always with a leader. Knot failures don't happen often. Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted April 27, 2012 Super User Posted April 27, 2012 Alberto knot is all I use for joining braid to mono or floro. I throw $100.00 Swimbaits with this knot and I have not had one failure at the knot. X2 - this is not as much a knot as it is a wrap, if that makes any sense? With any regular knot you have line crossing over itself. There is no such cross over with the Alberto (essentially a double Albright), consequently, there is no cutting into itself. This is a very secure line joint that has surely proven itself over the years. Just ask any saltwater fisherman about it. The plus here is also that it is a slimmer joint (although longer) and seems to flow though the guides easier. The Uni/Uni "clicks" going through the guides, possibly creating wear on this knot joint. I know a lot of guys that use the Uni knot joint, so maybe it's a stretch saying that this perceived wear is a factor at all. I'm just not sure. For now, I'm very pleased with the Alberto. Finally, if I'm not topwater fishing, I'm adding some kind of leader to my braided rigs. And I make this leader at least 6' - 8' long. To me, this also reduces stress on the joint vs. using a shorter leader. Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted April 27, 2012 Super User Posted April 27, 2012 I've tried them all and the Alberto's works best for me. Quote
Michael DiNardo Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 I am going to give it a shot, thanks for the replies. Mike Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted April 28, 2012 Super User Posted April 28, 2012 Alberto for me as well, that knot has yet to fail me. The flourocarbon leader breaks first. Quote
jkarol24 Posted April 28, 2012 Posted April 28, 2012 ALBERTO!!! Extremely strong, and relatively easy to tie. Quote
james 14 Posted April 28, 2012 Posted April 28, 2012 I use the surgeon's knot but I'm going to have to try the alberto knot since it looks to be a little easier to tie. I like the surgeon's, however, because it cinches down without much risk of burning the line. I will not use the uni to uni. I don't like the way the knots sit against each other, it's cumbersome and time consuming to tie and when I tested it it broke first before anything else. When I tested the surgeon's knot my palomar knot would break first at the hook. You can't get much better than that. I've yet to test it on really light line. I want to see if I can get the same results on 8lb flouro. I really love braid but made a brief switch to all flouro on my reels (except for topwater) to see if I could catch more fish. I didn't notice enough difference to deal with the line management issues. I'm back to all braid and will use a leader when necessary. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted April 28, 2012 Super User Posted April 28, 2012 What do you guys prefer when connecting your fluorocarbon leaders to your braid line? I've always used the double uni knot which has given me zero problems but always seems kinda bulky. My sentiments precisely, Caver: I've used the uniknot-to-uniknot connection for decades (fresh and salt), and have never experienced knot failure. On the downside, I've never been happy with the bulky joint. Over time, line loss and retying eventually expose the joiner knot, where the fishing line tends to catch during every cast. Very recently I've switched to the "Eugene Bend" for attaching lures and for joining line (who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks?). Though I've never tested the breaking strength myself, I read that the Eugene Knot is significantly stronger than the Palomar knot (which I never use). In addition, the Eugene bend can be tied to a lure with 3 treble hooks without the "loop over" nonsense. More importantly (to me at least), the Eugene joiner is noticeably smaller than a uniknot joiner. As an added bonus, if the Eugene Bend were any easier to tie, it would tie itself: Roger Quote
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