tentimesover Posted April 26, 2012 Posted April 26, 2012 I tried braid on my 2500 series spinning rig several years ago but dropped it after trying YoZuri Hybrid. After the last several days I'm ready to spool up one of my spinning rigs with braid though. It's been very windy and trying to control the boat and dodging boat docks I've not always been able to do the best line control -- and, thus have ended up with loopy line that is cutting into my fishing time. I plan to try the braid with a Hybrid leader. What braid would you suggest for spinning fishing mostly shaky heads and weightless Sinkos? PS - I've heard advice to play the line out behind the boat to relieve the twist. Do people really do this in practice. It seems like a time consuming pain to me that would have to be regularly repeated as the line develops twist again. Quote
North Ga Hillbilly Posted April 26, 2012 Posted April 26, 2012 Its hard to beat Power Pro. I've never done the anti twist behind the boat, but I have done it in the river and it works well and only takes a minute or two Quote
Stasher1 Posted April 26, 2012 Posted April 26, 2012 I tried braid on my 2500 series spinning rig several years ago but dropped it after trying YoZuri Hybrid. After the last several days I'm ready to spool up one of my spinning rigs with braid though. It's been very windy and trying to control the boat and dodging boat docks I've not always been able to do the best line control -- and, thus have ended up with loopy line that is cutting into my fishing time. I plan to try the braid with a Hybrid leader. What braid would you suggest for spinning fishing mostly shaky heads and weightless Sinkos? PS - I've heard advice to play the line out behind the boat to relieve the twist. Do people really do this in practice. It seems like a time consuming pain to me that would have to be regularly repeated as the line develops twist again. Braid won't help you in the wind, and depending on the diameter of braid you choose, it could actually make some hideous wind-knots. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 26, 2012 Super User Posted April 26, 2012 What is more time consuming? Dealing with twists when your fishing, or trolling the twists out at the end of the day? As far as braid goes, Power Pro, Power Pro Slick 8, and Sufix 832 in 20# size are all fine for spinning gear. 1 Quote
Super User eyedabassman Posted April 26, 2012 Super User Posted April 26, 2012 Make sure you use a backing on the reel! I like power pro or Sufix 832. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted April 26, 2012 Global Moderator Posted April 26, 2012 What is more time consuming? Dealing with twists when your fishing, or trolling the twists out at the end of the day? As far as braid goes, Power Pro, Power Pro Slick 8, and Sufix 832 in 20# size are all fine for spinning gear. I use 20# power pro on my 2500 Symetre that i also use for wacky, shaky and weightless senkos. I think its the perfect setup for a 6' 6" mh f spinning rig with a floro leader . Mike Quote
bassin is addicting Posted April 26, 2012 Posted April 26, 2012 i use 20lb power pro..with some backing... no problems at all. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted April 26, 2012 Super User Posted April 26, 2012 Braid will not troll out like mono does, well worth the few moments it takes to do it. One way to help minimize wind knots with braid is a long flowing cast rather than a snap cast. When snap casting the line is coming off the spool very fast, then hits the first guide, there's your knot. The spool design may have a impact too, I have 2 brands of reels that have never had wind knots to my memory, other brands under the same conditions have had knots. I don't think the brand of braid has any bearing on whether it will knot, I've tried many. Quote
tentimesover Posted April 26, 2012 Author Posted April 26, 2012 Braid will not troll out like mono does, well worth the few moments it takes to do it. One way to help minimize wind knots with braid is a long flowing cast rather than a snap cast. When snap casting the line is coming off the spool very fast, then hits the first guide, there's your knot. The spool design may have a impact too, I have 2 brands of reels that have never had wind knots to my memory, other brands under the same conditions have had knots. I don't think the brand of braid has any bearing on whether it will knot, I've tried many. So, what are the two brands that have never had wind knots. Sounds like those might be desirable additions to a Missouri fisherman's arsenal. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted April 26, 2012 Posted April 26, 2012 A degree of line twist come with the territory of spinning tackle but it can be all but eliminated by using a line treatment, using swivels where appropriate, always closing the bail by hand and making sure to put tension on the line before retrieving and last but not least pay attention to the line roller and see taht it is serviced regularly. Troll out whatever twist accumulates during the day and you'll have a much easier time with mono lines. Braid makes life even easier, though nothing is perfect and the ones mentioned are all good. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted April 26, 2012 Super User Posted April 26, 2012 So, what are the two brands that have never had wind knots. Sounds like those might be desirable additions to a Missouri fisherman's arsenal. Shimano stradic & Daiwa tierra Quote
Super User Marty Posted April 26, 2012 Super User Posted April 26, 2012 Do people really do this in practice. Yes, people really do this. Sometimes there's little choice. Twist is generally not a problem with braid. I've used 15# Power Pro or Fireline braid on Daiwa 2500-size reels. Quote
hatrix Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 I like to use 30# Power Pro. It seems like any thing less wants to dig in more then I would like. Quote
Zoff Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 I accidentally ended up trying Zebco Omnibraid. My Wife was at the local WallyWorld and I was in need of some braid. Called her up and told her what i needed... POWERPRO BRAID!!!!!! All she heard was braid and grabbed the cheapest she saw... yup... the Zebco. Based on looks... rough... poorly made... ugly... not good... cheap... I shall not go on. I put it on one of my Spinners because I was not about to try it on a BC. Ya know what? It is OK on a Spinner. Still won't put it on a BC but works really well for my Drop Shot rig with a leader. Quote
Diggy Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 I have zebco braid on one bc and no probs, caught some hogs on it. I have suffix and pp also and this was 5 to 13 bucks cheaper Quote
tentimesover Posted April 27, 2012 Author Posted April 27, 2012 Shimano stradic & Daiwa tierra I use a pair of Shimano Symetre spinning reels. Isn't the line handling pretty much the same on the Symetre and the Stradic? Quote
TxBankFisherman Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 I never used backing on my spinning reel... just put a small piece of electrical tape over the knot and worked great... You've got to use all palamor knots with braid... and Powerpro is a great value priced line... I use a palamor knot on all my knots now... it's a lot stronger knot so I'm glad I had to learn it.... if you fish for some species of fish... like speckled trout or crappie you got to be a careful and not set the hook to hard.... I think flurocarbon works much better for those species of fish... Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 27, 2012 Super User Posted April 27, 2012 Quote You've got to use all palamor knots with braid Not really. Uni works just as well. If it's slipping, you are tying it wrong. 1 Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted April 27, 2012 Super User Posted April 27, 2012 Quote Quote You've got to use all palamor knots with braid Not really. Uni works just as well. If it's slipping, you are tying it wrong. I totally agree with Francho ! 60 years of fishing and I've used the palomar about 4 times, not saying there is anything wrong with it. I use the simplest of knots with braid: clinch, improved clinch, alberto and to the spool just 3 or 4 overhand knots over my tape. I'm a terrible knot tier and these knots hold my offshore fish, I don't think a crappie is going to pose any problem. Quote
trevor Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 Momoi's Diamond Braid is my favorite, with Stren Sonic Braid up there. Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted April 27, 2012 Super User Posted April 27, 2012 I use #30 power pro with some mono backing on my Shimano stradic and love it. I have yet to get a loop of any kind since i switched to braid. I use #15 P-Line fluro leader and i am in business. Quote
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