It Finally Got Here!!

[Raider Nation Fisher]

After several weeks of waiting my new supplements came in the mail Monday. I dare say this stuff is insane! To Heck with Jack3d and those other knock off caffeine filled supplements. I am completely sprung. I feel like the freaking Hulk! I didn't know I could workout as hard as I did today. I'm use to intense workout sessions but today took the cake. I was doing dumbell curls with 95lb dumbells. Heck I was doing dumbell presses with 115lb dumbells, I usually use 90s. Tomorrow I'm gonna pay for this, but I dont care. Im holding steady at a body weight of 275 right now and am still losing fat. I'm apparently gaining muscle at the same time though. If I can keep this current trend going, by the end of the year I should be at 265-275 at hopefully 5-10% body fat. Heh my wife thinks Im narcissistic now. She's never seen how bad I get when I lose the gut.

[slonezp]

Oh look. Supplements that turn you into clayton. (j/k)

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Oh look. Supplements that turn you into clayton. (j/k)

That was low down. I fill myself tearing up.

Clayton would kill for the stuff I just got. As a matter a fact if he's a good boy, and stays out of trouble, I just may send him some.

[clayton86]

Heck my work outs have been sky rocketing too but I'm not on anything crazy just that jack3d stuff that I barely notice any more the rest the stuff I take are just vitamins and protein both from tons of chicken I eat at every meal and then shakes post workout and before bed. I'm not putting up crazy numbers......yet but its coming fast. The past two weeks have been low to moderate weight with between 8-12 reps 3-4 sets with a 15 min run before and after each session then 60min bike ride 3x a week. I'm down to 173 first time in a long time I'm under what the army says I should way(174). My weight numbers are climbing rapidly now that i have done 2 weeks of nothing but work on form and stabilizing the weights now I'm starting to do my set I started with with ease and am moving up weights. The guy I lift with is a tiny thing hes trying to gain weight hes at 113 right now but hes a beast hes doing dumbell press 85lbs each hand! thats insane for that small of a guy hes only 5'2". the guy on his free time when I'm on here or other fishing sites looking at tackle hes reading body building mags eating non stop and watching youtube videos of old arnold in his prime and ronnie colman and some other dudes idk who i just know there too big lol

Some of the other guys in my platoon 1 of which in my squad just got some P6 in I think its called idk I do know it was super expensive and supposedly crazy good close as you can get to roids with out taking roids. I'm staying away from that crap its to expensive 120 a month i think they said plus all the other stuff. today was my off day for lifting but I was gonna do an hour on the bike but I think I'm gonna pass I just pulled a class all morning and have to again tomorrow and iv been on a 12hr shift sense noon and yesterday I had a 12hr shift right after I did a 5k run then shoulders in the gym. Last night was the first sleep only 5 hrs though that iv had sense sunday morning Im a little beat I may push it off to the morning before chow and death by power point class.

Im loving the results though so is the wife we were skyping and well this is a family sight I'm not gonna repeat the comments she was making lets just say this 9 months cant get over soon enough to get me home and a baby sitter hired and hotel room rented lol

[clayton86]

plus iv been talking to raider bout supplements and lifting long before I started taking any so if anything hes to blame lol j/k

[Hi Salenity]

After several weeks of waiting my new supplements came in the mail Monday. I dare say this stuff is insane! To Heck with Jack3d and those other knock off caffeine filled supplements. I am completely sprung. I feel like the freaking Hulk! I didn't know I could workout as hard as I did today. I'm use to intense workout sessions but today took the cake. I was doing dumbell curls with 95lb dumbells. Heck I was doing dumbell presses with 115lb dumbells, I usually use 90s. Tomorrow I'm gonna pay for this, but I dont care. Im holding steady at a body weight of 275 right now and am still losing fat. I'm apparently gaining muscle at the same time though. If I can keep this current trend going, by the end of the year I should be at 265-275 at hopefully 5-10% body fat. Heh my wife thinks Im narcissistic now. She's never seen how bad I get when I lose the gut.

What is it????

[telmomarques]

what kind supplement are you currently taking now

[deaknh03]

Is it from Mexico or Canada? Does it rhyme with Dball?

[preach4bass]

Must be top secret.

[tomustang]

Some roid mix :|

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Cellucor C4 Extreme and R3 Exreme, Alpha T1, and some Cellucor NO3 (Mainly for when I dont feel like loading up on the C4 Extreme.) It's nice to be able to change stuff up now and again. The Alpha T1 though is freaking amazing.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Is it from Mexico or Canada? Does it rhyme with Dball?

Tsk Tsk. Everyone knows the best juice comes from Russia.

Also, no I prefer not to mess with the true juice. It causes very unpleasent things to happen. I try to get as close to without crossing into that stuff. It can be tricky but is quite possible to do.

[clayton86]

I looked up the T1 stuff holy **** $90 a bottle only lasts a month but I did see some for 50

[clayton86]

ok that T1 smells and tastes like raw A hole i started my cycle of it this morning my burps are disgusting tasteing between that stuff and OJ and hard boiled eggs, bagel, and a banana it is quite interesting flavors coming back up its a chest day at the gym so ill see how it works tonight when I take my 2nd dose.

[tomustang]

So what's the long term side effects of this stuff?

[clayton86]

the T1 is all natural ingredients been out on the market for some time now with nothing but great reviews so couldn't tell ya

[Fishing Rhino]

All natural. What does that really mean in the overall scheme of things?

In my opinion, not very much.

There are many poisonous plants and fungi (mushrooms/toadstools) which are all natural, but can kill you or make you very ill. Would you make a salad from poison ivy/sumac/oak greens? All viruses and bacteria are quite natural, but can be deadly, or beneficial, and in some cases necessary for good health.

Crude oil and coal are all natural products. Yet the "all natural" green community views them as anything but beneficial.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

All natural. What does that really mean in the overall scheme of things?

In my opinion, not very much.

There are many poisonous plants and fungi (mushrooms/toadstools) which are all natural, but can kill you or make you very ill. Would you make a salad from poison ivy/sumac/oak greens? All viruses and bacteria are quite natural, but can be deadly, or beneficial, and in some cases necessary for good health.

Crude oil and coal are all natural products. Yet the "all natural" green community views them as anything but beneficial.

As with most herbal supplements, if you do not stay WELL hydrated it can have adverse affects on your kidneys. That's the only thing I have heard about it.

[clayton86]

As with most herbal supplements, if you do not stay WELL hydrated it can have adverse affects on your kidneys. That's the only thing I have heard about it.

I stay plenty hydrated about 10quarts a day 12 is the limit before they say your over hydrated. I'm not going down in this heat here I don't drink coffee or energy drinks only caffeine I get is in that Jack3d that I haven't taken in over a week.

[jeremyt]

So what's the long term side effects of this stuff?

This.

[Sam]

So what's the long term side effects of this stuff?

You get to look like Raider Nation Fisher!!!

[BrianinMD]

As Rhino pointed out all natural does not mean safe, just a nice little marketing ploy. These supplements do not go thru FDA testing, do the compounds get removed from the body properly. Or do they gather in the a part of the body causing issues later, how hard are the kidneys working to remove them.... to many questions with serious implications to rely on taking the next big break thru...until the next big break thru.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

You get to look like Raider Nation Fisher!!!

Supplements ain't gonna help you there. Gotta have the genetics for that. Ifn you ain't got those then you gonna need some juice.