carrollton-fisher Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 So i have a cashion rod that I really love for jigs but I don't really have any high dollar rods to copare it to. I was thinking of getting another $200 rod and needed some help. the cashion is the only experience I have with more expensive rods, wondering if anyone has fished cashion and possibly the cumara to see how they compare, or the dobyn's champion? I would be using it for 1/4-1/2 ounce football jigs, not pitching/flipping heavy cover, but dragging ledges and such. I want the most sensitive rod i can get in that price range. I only spend a lot of money on the bottom contact rods so the only other better rod I have is a falcon lowrider but would never use one of these for jigs. Thanks in advance. Quote
msolorio Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 i have a 7'3" med hvy cashion and absolutely love it for football jigs, and flippin and pitchin. i also have a dobyns champion 735c which is the same length and med hvy rating as the cashion. that bein said, i find i get better hooksets with the cashion than with the dobyns. the dobyns has a pretty soft tip for a med hvy rod and thats the one thing i dont like about it. if i were you, id stick with the cashion. just as good as the dobyns with a smaller price tag. Quote
Bass_Fanatic Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 THe Dobyns 784ML rod is a GREAT football jig rod. Also, I like a little tip on a football jig rod as to let the fish inhale the jig. I like a XF tip for flipping and pitching a jig though. Quote
bassinCPA Posted April 25, 2012 Posted April 25, 2012 A couple of weeks ago I was on the fence about a Cashion rod too. Finally bought a 6'9" MH primarily to be used for spinnerbaits and jigs up to 3/8 ounce. This rod feels more sensitive and balanced to me than a Kistler mag, Duckett, and Dobyns champion. One thing I noticed is that the carbon fiber handle allows for a shorter handle than other rods meaning that you can use an overall shorter rods but still have equivalent length from the grip forward, which another plus to me. I will choose a cashion over any of these listed and will buy a few more this summer. Very impressed with this stick. Quote
Bassohol Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 I'll tell you this. I bought a Cashion rod just to test out. I got a 7' H to throw big football jigs on the Tennessee River. After fishing it a little while, I ordered 10 more yesterday. I'm replacing all my rods with Cashions. That includes a couple Dobyns rods, a Loomis GLX, a Loomis spinnerbait rod, a Kistler, a couple Cara T7 Falcons, and a custom rod with a St. Croix blank. Obviously, the perception (at least given the price) is that the GLX is the "best" rod I own, and it is pretty nice. But, at half the price, the Cashion is just as good, if not better, in my hands from a weight, sensitivity, and overall performance standpoint. I'd recommend a Cashion to anyone. 1 Quote
carrollton-fisher Posted April 30, 2012 Author Posted April 30, 2012 Wow, as i said, i love my cashion, i had just never fished any of the other high end rods to compare with it. i'm trying to find someone with a cumara or imx to sling side by side. I tried a duckett and there is no comparison. Hey bassahol, i have the 7' MH Cashion for jigs, how heavy of jigs are you dragging witht the H? Quote
Bassohol Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 Nothing smaller than 1/2 oz. I'll use it to throw 1/2 oz around chunk rock and bluff walls in current and 3/4 to 1 oz around deep cover or ledges depending on depth and current. Although I haven't used it for flipping yet, I feel like it has adequate power to flip jigs in heavy cover as well. I'm not a huge fan of one-dimensional flipping sticks that only get used a few weeks out of the year, so the H is perfect for me. I have a couple of the 7' MH rods coming that I'll use for lighter jigs (3/16 and up), Texas rigs, and whatever else I feel the need to use. It should be a fantastic all-around rod. In fact, when I called the dealer whom I ordered from, he recommended that I get at least one of the 7' MH in both casting and spinning before I even gave him my list of models. He personally recommended those as some of the best rods he's ever used. Quote
carrollton-fisher Posted December 3, 2012 Author Posted December 3, 2012 Well, I just got my new Heavy Cumara in to compare against the Cashion. I've always used the MH Cashion as my jig rod (football/offshore) jig fishing, wanted to see if there was another high end rod that might be better. I got the Cumara and fished with it from the bank, haven''t had a chance to take the boat out yet and try it on rocky points to compare. One thing i do like about the Cumara, the Heavy really handles 1/2 oz jigs well. It seems sensitive but not sure it is more sensitive than my Cashion, i'll update when I have enough time on the water with it. Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted December 3, 2012 Super User Posted December 3, 2012 I may be in the minority here, but Cashion and high-end rods don't belong in the same sentence. I had one in the shop for a guide repair and I can't see what all the hype is about. It was one of the most poorly assembled and finished rods I've ever seen. Quote
LuckyHandsINC. Posted December 3, 2012 Posted December 3, 2012 I may be in the minority here, but Cashion and high-end rods don't belong in the same sentence. I had one in the shop for a guide repair and I can't see what all the hype is about. It was one of the most poorly assembled and finished rods I've ever seen. Totally agree. I know to really judge a rod I should fish it but if it can't even pass the hand test why would I want to fish with it. Quote
Arv Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 Check out the Phenix M1 or Recon. Most will say those rods perform above their price range. I still have yet to try out a Cashion but I really want to. Especially since they're made right here in Raleigh. 1 Quote
HOIST-N-HAWGS Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 So i have a cashion rod that I really love for jigs but I don't really have any high dollar rods to copare it to. I was thinking of getting another $200 rod and needed some help. the cashion is the only experience I have with more expensive rods, wondering if anyone has fished cashion and possibly the cumara to see how they compare, or the dobyn's champion? I would be using it for 1/4-1/2 ounce football jigs, not pitching/flipping heavy cover, but dragging ledges and such. I want the most sensitive rod i can get in that price range. I only spend a lot of money on the bottom contact rods so the only other better rod I have is a falcon lowrider but would never use one of these for jigs. Thanks in advance. Never fished Dobyn's, but stay away from the Cumara's. I owned 8 Cumara's when they first came out. I snapped 3 in a T before 9:30am. very sensitive rods but, also very brittle. I just purchased a Kistler KLX and a Cashion, 7'6" flippers. The micro's on the KLX are definitely a cut above the Cashion micro's, and the KLX is much lighter. However, the Cashion is far more sensitive and stiffer. I can see more of both rods in the near future. Quote
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