flipin4bass Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 I've never used these hooks before, so I decided to give them a try. These hooks are really sharp! I've been a loyal Gamakatsu user for years, but I think I'll be switching over to these Owner hooks. IMO they are just as sharp as Trokar, only stronger. I know they're more expensive compared to Gamakatsu, but from what I can see and feel, they're well worth it. The points on these hooks feel like they will slice through the toughest jaw like a hot knife through butter. Quote
Super User deep Posted April 21, 2012 Super User Posted April 21, 2012 A lot of swimbait guys use Owner ST36 and ST41 trebles. Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted April 21, 2012 Super User Posted April 21, 2012 I love Owner and Gamakatsu trebles and recently tried and love the Trokar hooks now also. However, when it comes to lures like spinnerbaits I don't care for them, only trebles and worm hooks. The reason is I used them when I was testing hooks out a few years ago because some guys wanted Gamakatsu and still others wanted Owner so I made them for myself and I found on a spinnerbait they are the worst possible hooks to use which I why I won't even give a Trokar a shot as it is the same technology basically. What I'm talking about is the cutting point, the cutting point on those hooks are fantastic to go through plastic or bury a small treble in the jaw of a fish but spinnerbaits and jigs it isn't the same, the bigger hook makes a bigger hole and a lot of times the hook just falls out, I can't tell you how many fish I lost of got to the boat and the hook just came out. For my money I use the Mustad Ultra Point or the VMC cone cut bklack nickel. Worm and treble hooks Owner Trokar and Gamakatsu are great, spinnerbaits and jigs not so great. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted April 21, 2012 Super User Posted April 21, 2012 Owner hooks are the best IMO. however got fully get rid of Gamakatsu either. Those are the only two hooks I buy and use right now. Gamakatsu is a little easier to find around here. Usually if I have the extra cash I'll shell it out for Owner hooks. 1 Quote
Greed Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 Owner Hooks are the best in my opinion. Just like Catt said though, it's all about confidence in the tools you are using more than the tool itself. Quote
River Rat316 Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 Smalljaw, I completely disagree, and so will many others about your assesment of Owners in jigs, while I feel the Mustad is a good baseline hook for jigs I strongly believe that Owners step it up more than a notch, I have heard the argument before about the bigger holes from the cutting point and in the thousands of fish I have caught with a jig with Owner hooks have never once have I lost a fish and contributed it to the hook, if fish are coming unbuttoned you are leaving slack or letting them jump and shake the hook out, at that point it wouldn't matter which hook you are using the fish will come unbuttoned. The designers of there jig hooks have also taken into account the larger hole created by the cutting point and given the hook a larger barb which also aides in keeping the fish buttoned up. Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted April 21, 2012 Super User Posted April 21, 2012 Smalljaw, I completely disagree, and so will many others about your assesment of Owners in jigs, while I feel the Mustad is a good baseline hook for jigs I strongly believe that Owners step it up more than a notch, I have heard the argument before about the bigger holes from the cutting point and in the thousands of fish I have caught with a jig with Owner hooks have never once have I lost a fish and contributed it to the hook, if fish are coming unbuttoned you are leaving slack or letting them jump and shake the hook out, at that point it wouldn't matter which hook you are using the fish will come unbuttoned. The designers of there jig hooks have also taken into account the larger hole created by the cutting point and given the hook a larger barb which also aides in keeping the fish buttoned up. I guess I shouldn't have been over reaching because I use a lot of the jig hooks that appear on you jig in your avatar, an Owner 5304 Deep Throat jig hook is one of if not the best jig hook around, so yes, I will admit I'm wrong. I should have been specifit, the Owner 5326 cross eyed hook I use for shaky heads is one I do not like and it is due to the cutting point, it makes a big hole for a lite wire hook. The Gamakatsu 614 does a similar thing, I guess I should say the lite wire hooks from Owner and Gamakatsu aren't great but the flipping jig hooks are a different story. I don't like the spinnerbait hooks as I said, the cutting points do cause that problem and it isn't so much with largemouth as it is with smallies, the smallies tend to jump far out of the water and twist while doing it and the cutting point tends to really open up a hole. I should have made it clear as it did sound like they were all bad and they are far from it. My personal experience has been great except for a few model, primarily the lite wire jig hooks and the spinnerbait hooks and if they would make the gap on the spinnerbait hook just a tad smaller and add a little bit of length to the shank it would cure the problem. Quote
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