pondassasin Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Does anyone know if you can swap 7.0:1 core gears into a 50e? Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted April 13, 2012 Posted April 13, 2012 The cases appear to have room, Shimano can confirm before ordering parts. You need main and pinion gears for the same side retrieve. Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted April 13, 2012 Super User Posted April 13, 2012 The 7.1:1 gear set from the Core will work properly as the reels are made on the same tooling. The cost of the gearset is right around $30 if purchased from Shimano. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted April 13, 2012 Super User Posted April 13, 2012 The 7.1:1 gear set from the Core will work properly as the reels are made on the same tooling. The cost of the gearset is right around $30 if purchased from Shimano. Pertty Sure Bantam confirmed this in a recent posting, can't find it though. Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted April 13, 2012 Super User Posted April 13, 2012 Hmm....would love a 7x 50e..... Dvt....how do we go about getting these parts and doing it? Jeff Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted April 13, 2012 Posted April 13, 2012 Hmm....would love a 7x 50e..... Dvt....how do we go about getting these parts and doing it? Jeff If you want a gear set installed it can be done as part of a standard clean/lube service for no extra cost. The cost of the parts I just pass along. If you want to DIY, Jfrancho posted the part numbers. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 13, 2012 Super User Posted April 13, 2012 I can't remember with the Shimano, but swapping other gearsets - last one I did was an Abu whiffle spool Ambassedeur - sometimes required swapping drag washers, and shimming the AR bearing tube. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted April 13, 2012 Posted April 13, 2012 John, What did you swap metal washers for thicker/thinner? I presume this was due to a main gear that was not as deep as the original. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 13, 2012 Super User Posted April 13, 2012 No, the diameters were different, and the stack was all different. In the case of the wiffle spool, I used slower (3.7:1?) gears from a lower line of reel. Everything was different. I think we might have gained a "clicking drag" where there was an audible click when drag was slipping, like a spinning reel. That's a cool Abu feature - wish others did it. Now, If I'm not mistaken, washers for a 7:1 Shimano gear set are different than the 6:1 and 5:1. That would require obtaining more than just the gears. It's easy to check, just look at the steel keyed and dog eared washer part numbers. No match, you better get those too. You might as well upgrade to Carbontex drags while you're at it. Quote
OnthePotomac Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 It is interesting tha the Core 50MG and Curado 50E have the same large drag washer - BNT2431. Is the speed then obtained from more teeth in the drive gear and pinion gears and not a larger diameter? If so, then the key washer should also be the same size. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted April 14, 2012 Super User Posted April 14, 2012 No, the diameters were different, and the stack was all different. In the case of the wiffle spool, I used slower (3.7:1?) gears from a lower line of reel. Everything was different. I think we might have gained a "clicking drag" where there was an audible click when drag was slipping, like a spinning reel. That's a cool Abu feature - wish others did it. Now, If I'm not mistaken, washers for a 7:1 Shimano gear set are different than the 6:1 and 5:1. That would require obtaining more than just the gears. It's easy to check, just look at the steel keyed and dog eared washer part numbers. No match, you better get those too. You might as well upgrade to Carbontex drags while you're at it. yep Well I took a look and one inner drag washer for Core is #3548 and the 50E is #3915. The key washer Core is #3941 the 50E #3213 Quote
OnthePotomac Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 You misunderstood what I was talking about. Both large drag washers for the Core and Curado 50 are BNT2431. The point being that if both large washers have the same part number, the inside diameter of the drive gear has to be the same. I don't know if both key washers are the same with different part numbers, which is common with Shimano. By the way, Shimano is revising their part numbers so that if the same part fits more than one reel model, the part will now have the same number, no matter how many reels it is for. Thank goodness they are finally doing that. No more having three part numbers for the same pinion bearing (BNT2170=BNT3927=BNT2192). Quote
Toeshots Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 Does anyone know the approximate IPT number after increasing the gear ratio to 7? Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted December 26, 2012 Super User Posted December 26, 2012 This would take you from the stock 25" IPT on the 50E to 28" IPT (the IPT for a Core 50). The spools are same diameter/capacity between the two reels so the IPT from the Core should apply. Quote
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