My Girlriend's Casting ( Line Related )

[outdoorsman110]

So I spooled my girl's spinning reel with 17lb Suffix Siege, almost every time she casts the line circles off the reel, I know it's not lure weight or line related as I do not have this problem. Originally she used the ez-cast trigger, which is what I thought the problem was, but when I told her not to use the trigger she still had the same problem ( it did occur less ) so now I took her reel and spooled it with 8lb Stren and I also took off the casting trigger so she makes a habit out of not using it. Hopefully it helps. She even used my Shimano Stradic and still had the problem. Anybody know what causes this? She casts similar to me but her hands are small, when she holds the line to make a cast, her finger is closer to the reel than the blank of the rod. Thanks to anyone who can help!

[K_Mac]

It takes a little time to learn to use a spinning reel properly.

First, 17# mono is way too heavy for any reel sized for bass fishing. I use 6# copolymer (CXX) on my spinning reels with good success. 8# Stren should be fine.

Second, how you spool line on the reel is important. Laying the spool flat and reeling it on to your reel so that it doesn't twist is key. If after a few turns of the handle the line wants to twist, turn the spool over and try again. You can always let it trail behind the boat or in the yard to remove excessive twist .

Third, learning to stop the line as you bait touches down will make line management much easier. I use my index finger to feather the line and control distance, or you can do the same with your other hand.

Fourth, as the bait touches down lift the tip of the rod slightly and close the bail with your other hand. This will minimize twisting and make life much happier.

Finally, do not continue to crank when the drag is slipping. Doing so will twist the snot out of your line. Following these step will become second nature in short order and will make spinning reels much less of a pain.Good luck.

[gr8outdoorz]

My girl had the same problem when she started fishing with me. I spooled her up with 20# braid w/ fluoro leader...problem solved! Not sure what was causing it. I think it might have something to do with the speed of the luer in the air. Might not be flying fast enough to pull the line out so it jus coils out. Thats just a guess though. Once she started she started getting a little "snap" with the rod tip she started casting much better. Good luck!

[outdoorsman110]

Thanks for the feed back, I choose to use 17lb line because fish heavily structured waters and If I snag a stick or branch I can haul it it without breaking my line or loosing my precious lures.

[NBR]

If you need line that heavy on a spinning rig go to braid.

[outdoorsman110]

If you need line that heavy on a spinning rig go to braid.

Just a preference of mine.

[islandbass]

Mono that thick on a bass sized spinning reel is not a match made in heaven. If you insist on having her use this combination, then I would lessen the amount of line on the spool to alleviate the painful manageability of the line.

Or, you can find a thinner line with comparable strength. Pline's CXX in 8# test probably breaks at 17#, lol.

Either that, or a spinning reel with a larger line capacity -- but spinning reels get heavier after the 3000 size, lol.

Any reason she couldn't use a baitcast rig? Those problems would disappear in a heartbeat.

[tomustang]

Thanks for the feed back, I choose to use 17lb line because fish heavily structured waters and If I snag a stick or branch I can haul it it without breaking my line or loosing my precious lures.

It's overkill on a spinning reel that small.

P-Line and Yo Zuri make strong line without using such a thick diameter, look into them. Just on P-line 15lb I can bend 2/0 hooks out of logs.

Atleast run a 10lb line and do weedless setups like texas rigs to control the getting stuck situation

[outdoorsman110]

It's overkill on a spinning reel that small.

P-Line and Yo Zuri make strong line without using such a thick diameter, look into them. Just on P-line 15lb I can bend 2/0 hooks out of logs.

Atleast run a 10lb line and do weedless setups like texas rigs to control the getting stuck situation

15 lb?

[new2BC4bass]

15 lb?

Tom uses 15 lb. on his baitcasing reels. Pretty sure he was only giving you an example of how strong 15 lb. line is.

[SmokeRise1]

When 5 out of 5 replies say the issue is ralated to over-sized line, I think you should downsize the line.

[outdoorsman110]

When 5 out of 5 replies say the issue is ralated to over-sized line, I think you should downsize the line.

well I don't have the issue.. The line flies off my CI4 like butter. Nice and smooth.

But I might switch to 15lb

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

The stripper guide on a spinning rod should be at least 1/2 the diameter of the spool. This is even more important with the heavy line. Slightly under-filling the spool will help as well. Pull out several yards of line and tie it off giving it a good stretch then spool it back on treating it with KVD line and lure. You didn't mention which reel she's using. Something in the 4000 size or a wide arbor might be easier to manage than a smaller reel.

[outdoorsman110]

The stripper guide on a spinning rod should be at least 1/2 the diameter of the spool. This is even more important with the heavy line. Slightly under-filling the spool will help as well. Pull out several yards of line and tie it off giving it a good stretch then spool it back on treating it with KVD line and lure. You didn't mention which reel she's using. Something in the 4000 size or a wide arbor might be easier to manage than a smaller reel.

She uses a Pfluger Arbor reel, i can cast that reel without the line circling but as soon as she casts it circles on her.

[J Francho]

Teach her to use a baitcaster. Problem solved.

[outdoorsman110]

Teach her to use a baitcaster. Problem solved.

I'm getting there, i'm gonna get her a Daiwa Strikeforce LH, she can't use any of my baitcasters because i'm right handed. haha.

[craww]

Hard to have your cake and eat it to. CXX in #6 or Yozuri hybrid in #8 are the strongest/best handling monos I've used on a bass sized spinner.

I know you say it's a preferance thing, but honestly braided line and spinning reels will change your life, lol.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Actually, a righty baitcaster is what a lefty wants. It avoids learning the bad habit of switching hands.

[outdoorsman110]

Actually, a righty baitcaster is what a lefty wants. It avoids learning the bad habit of switching hands.

explain more?

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Like lots of other folks I grew up fishing spinning tackle that I casted with my right and retrieved with my left. I added spincasters that I casted then swithed the rod to my left hand so i could crank it with my right hand. As a result, today I have many right handed baitcasters. When casting to targets and making short casts where you can get bit as soon as the bait hits the water I missed some strikes while switching hands. As a result I have acquired several "lefty" baitcasters. I cast with my right and just start reeling with my left just like I do with spinning tackle. I just think it's much more efficient to cast and handle the rod with my dominant hand and crank with the other. It's so engrained in me that I fish both ways but always advise new anglers to not start switching hands if they don't have to.

[hatrix]

I only read your first sentence and saw the issue right there. I am not so sure how 17# would work on spinning but I can't imagine it being any good. I have never gone over 12 and even that is a little heavy IMO. Any more I just use braid on spinning gear besides for a drop shot. You can get 30# Power Pro and it is the same as 8# mono (I think) either way its small with excellent strength.

[outdoorsman110]

I only read your first sentence and saw the issue right there. I am not so sure how 17# would work on spinning but I can't imagine it being any good. I have never gone over 12 and even that is a little heavy IMO. Any more I just use braid on spinning gear besides for a drop shot. You can get 30# Power Pro and it is the same as 8# mono (I think) either way its small with excellent strength.

it's only my girlfriend that has a problem with the line, not me. I can cast it perfectly. No twists or circles. I throw deep rigs around heavy cover.

[outdoorsman110]

Like lots of other folks I grew up fishing spinning tackle that I casted with my right and retrieved with my left. I added spincasters that I casted then swithed the rod to my left hand so i could crank it with my right hand. As a result, today I have many right handed baitcasters. When casting to targets and making short casts where you can get bit as soon as the bait hits the water I missed some strikes while switching hands. As a result I have acquired several "lefty" baitcasters. I cast with my right and just start reeling with my left just like I do with spinning tackle. I just think it's much more efficient to cast and handle the rod with my dominant hand and crank with the other. It's so engrained in me that I fish both ways but always advise new anglers to not start switching hands if they don't have to.

thanks!