Trigger / Reel Seat ?

[Fishing-Vol]

After vacation and fishing 10+ hours a day for 6 days, I decided that I don't like the trigger on my casting rods. Or the location of it, anyway. I fish with the trigger between my little finger and my ring finger, and by the end of the day my little finger is done. It is starting to hurt even when I am not fishing. Now that I am done whinning, my question is: can the trigger be moved towards the butt of the rod an inch to an inch and a half? Or do they make a casting rod reel seat without a trigger? I understand that the trigger was needed where it is, when we used pistal grip handles. But todays fishermen usually have the reel in their hand, more than than we did with pistal grips. Thanks for any help. Can I patened the idea? lol.

[Tony Monticelli]

i don't like them either... i just mount a spin reel seat upside down.

i haven't seen it out there on factory rods other than conventional surf,, but i also haven't really been shopping for them either so i don't know..

if you patent your idea you can call it the Alabama casting reel seat, don't get mad if your made fun of or if someone posts a video on how to make your own.

[Fishing-Vol]

i don't like them either... i just mount a spin reel seat upside down.

i haven't seen it out there on factory rods other than conventional surf,, but i also haven't really been shopping for them either so i don't know..

if you patent your idea you can call it the Alabama casting reel seat, don't get mad if your made fun of or if someone posts a video on how to make your own.

The key word is Fun. I like to laugh, even if it is at me.

Alabama????? Did you read my name? lol.

I almost took every rod I own out to the shop and put the trigger to the belt sander. lol.

[Fishwhittler]

Casting rods with trigger-less reel seats are an interesting concept, and the jury's still out for me on whether they're necessary. The trigger is nice for one-handed casts, but most of the time I use both hands when casting so the trigger isn't really needed. I do like the trigger when palming the reel, but again, I'm not sure it makes much of a difference.

I'd suggest you try putting a casting reel on a spinning rod to get a feel for what a trigger-less casting rod feels like. If you like how it handles, you could try grinding off the trigger on a casting rod you don't use much and fishing with it for a day. That way you can decide which reel seat feels the best for you, and whether or not you really need the trigger. If you find that you like using the trigger-less reel seat, the belt sander awaits your casting rods.

Tight lines,

Ben

[Fishing-Vol]

Casting rods with trigger-less reel seats are an interesting concept, and the jury's still out for me on whether they're necessary. The trigger is nice for one-handed casts, but most of the time I use both hands when casting so the trigger isn't really needed. I do like the trigger when palming the reel, but again, I'm not sure it makes much of a difference.

Tight lines,

Ben

I not sure that the trigger should be removed all together, but it would be nice if we had some other options. How about putting the trigger on the front seat, or make the rear seat 2 inches longer and put the trigger in different places for different hand sizes. I don't think that we have any options yet, but triggers have been unchange since their ***. I'm just thinking out loud and what better place to do that than on this "crappy" forum.

[Tony Monticelli]

well the rear grip comes into play without the trigger.. you don't want it to feel like your hands going to slip either...

don't know how to exactly how to explain it but if the grip is short with a fast taper down and leaving you nothing behind your pinky isnt all great but if its some meat there and is cigarish in taper and gives you something behind your hand it works.

[J Francho]

You might try an ACS style real seat. I didn't like them at first, but my new GL2 has one, and it palms nicely with a few different reels on it. It's got two grooves, like finger stalls in it. Hard to explain, you'd have to mount a reel on one and see if it changes anything for you.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

I haven't tried it, but some builders have ground down the trigger on some seats to just a nub. Another possible way to fabricate what you describe would be to use a spinning seat with a skeleton seat trigger behind it. There would be a gap you may want to fill with cork or something.

[VolFan]

I have a Cabela's rod that the trigger broke on, and I certainly like it more without it. There's still plnety there to grip the rod and casting one-handed isn't a problem, at least not in the dropping the rod sense...professional overruns do happen...

[Fishing-Vol]

I've been searching and the fuji palm support real seat may do the trick. I haven't found the specs for length yet, but it could be an option. Keep the suggestions coming. Rod builders please chime in.

[Fishing-Vol]

I haven't tried it, but some builders have ground down the trigger on some seats to just a nub. Another possible way to fabricate what you describe would be to use a spinning seat with a skeleton seat trigger behind it. There would be a gap you may want to fill with cork or something.

I was kind of thinking about that too. That would move the trigger back behind the little finger and still give support without making me manipulate my fingers around the trigger.

[Fishing-Vol]

You might try an ACS style real seat. I didn't like them at first, but my new GL2 has one, and it palms nicely with a few different reels on it. It's got two grooves, like finger stalls in it. Hard to explain, you'd have to mount a reel on one and see if it changes anything for you.

I think my Cashion rod has ACS style seat. I think the issue, for me, is the location of the trigger. They all seem to be the same distance behind the reel seat itself. And that puts the trigger where it is an issue. I am looking for options that will move the trigger to better fit. Thanks J. The ACS is alittle better ( more comfortable ) though.

[J Francho]

Last thing....tonic water. Have a glass of tonic water with lime to cut the taste. The trace levels of quinine reduce cramping in the extremities. Does wonders for my foot cramps.

[Fishwhittler]

I tried putting a casting reel on a spinning rod last night, and it didn't feel awkward at all. Actually, I really liked how it handled, although I'm still not sure how much I'd like it after a day of fishing. Something to think about...

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Last thing....tonic water. Have a glass of tonic water with lime to cut the taste. The trace levels of quinine reduce cramping in the extremities. Does wonders for my foot cramps.

??????? looks like someone had a little gin with the tonic water and made a wrong turn. lol

[J Francho]

No gin, that's nasty. Look it up. A customer turned me on to it a couple years ago.

[Crookedneck]

You could always go with a Fuji SK2 spinning seat flipped upside down. Or go with a ALPS aluminum triangle spinning seet again flipped upside donw. Or Fuji has a Palm Support reel seat. Fuji PSS the trigger sits back farther for when Palming a reel. The trigger also has a different angle to it. http://www.mudhole.com/Shop-Our-Catalog/Graphite_4/PSS-Palm-Support-Reel-Seat

[Diablos]

The Fuji palm support reel seat only comes in size 20 which would be huge on a typical bass blank.

You can try using a Fuji IPSSD which actually allows you to remove the trigger.

Or you can just reverse a typical DPSSD seat

[von]

I've had to cut off the triggers on my casting rods also! They are so much more comfortable to fish with all day! The triggers were just not very comfortable after a long day of fishing. And I never could figure the need for them, if you're the type who palms the whole reel.

I've always wondered why aren't there any rods without triggers out on the market. They palm support reel seat does look interesting.

[Fishing-Vol]

Thanks for all the imput. I'm gonna keep looking and digging. I'm thinking spinning reel seat turned upside down and maybe adding a skeleton trigger behind the seat. That way, if the trigger is still in the way, I could add spacers to adjust the position of the trigger to fit. My second choice would be to take the standard casting reel seat w/ trigger and turn it around so that the trigger would be towards the tip of the rod. I'm going to keep playing.