P-Line C21

[tomustang]

Ok so I've been trying out this line for a month.

8,12,15lb and to my guess is they were getting rid of the CX, well it disappeared were ever I buy it.

The 8 is nice, feels like the CX without coiling and no fluorescent, same with the 12 but feels a little thicker. The 15 however loves to coil up after one day, it feels thick but is strong like its CXX brother. I still don't have a problem launching a 3/8oz, bit anything less gets bogged down with the rotations. In my opinion I'd rather have something else when going higher than 12lb. Maybe it's time to hit yozuri above the 14lb range

[Packard]

I have been using the 12lb. on my Jerkbait/Topwater combo and haven't had any issues. It is actually my most managable line at the moment. It responds very well to L&L.

[Teal101]

My review posted on TT forums,

"For $5 for 300 yds I was not expecting much. I picked up a filler spool of this in 8lb to put on my new Shimano Sahara reel. I paired the reel with a cheap Shimano Scimitar M 7' Fast rod for throwing lighter and weightless plastics. This morning I went out in the crisp 35* weather with a 6 mph wind. I decided to start by throwing a watermelon 5" Senko weightless wacky rigged. Upon tying on the hook I noticed the line had severe memory, especially for just having spooled it up the night before! Knot tying was mildly difficult as the line liked to coil. I experienced 3 wind knots within two hours of fishing, all needed cutting and retying. The line strength was better than expected and I was able to snap at snags and tug on the line hard with no issues. It does have a good bit of stretch as well. It was quite transparent in the water. I wasnt able to hook any fish and give it a good fish fight test. I cant say I'll buy another spool, but at only $5 I cant say it was a waste.

Recap,

Pros:

Cheap

Seemingly as strong as rated

Decent transparency

Cons:

Stretchy

Bad memory

Prone to wind knots"

"Took it out last night for 2-1/2 hours. Temps were in the mid 40's to upper 30's with a slight wind at my back. Water temp was in the 40's as well. Same setup as before, 7' M Shimano Scimitar paired with a Shimano Sahara 2500. Was casting some heavy jigs in the 1/2-3/4 oz range, trying to combat the current. It was kind of tough to get to the bottom as the lures were swept sideways quite quick. The dam right above us was releasing a lot of water creating nasty current.

Again I ran into issues with stretch. Bouncing on rocks I could feel a lot of give in the line. The next issue was abrasion resistance, or lack thereof. After 20 or so casts my line was visibly nicked and cut from the rocks. In fact got I a slight snag, popped the rod to release it and the line snapped. Reeled in and noticed it broke clean off and the line up above the break was rough and beat up. I would have to retie obnoxiously often to retain any strength in the rocks with this line.

I also threw P-Line Fluoro Clear in the 12lb test running a 1/2 oz Rat-L-Trap on the bottom just as much as the jig and this line withstood the bottom much better. Barely any nicks in the line after just as many casts as with C21. The C21 does transmit the bottom OK to the rod, I was able to feel weeds and rocks, but when using such a cheap rod it is hard to tell much more. My crank rod is a new Loomis GL2 and it was much better at feeling the bottom, although irrelevant in the line comparison.

So as before, I cant recommend this line unless price is really an issue. I would also stay away from using this line where rocks may be an issue."

[j.bruno]

I tried c21 out last weekend on a brand new daiwa fuego. I had big time problems with it. The exact same problems as mentioned above. Most of my reels are going to have BPS EXCEL mono on them, used the last year with 0 problems. I also used some different P LINE last year. It was great, forgot the name of it. It wasnt C21 , id stay away even @ 5$ a spool.

[John G]

I have 15lb C21 on a set-up and I like it.

[tomustang]

The next issue was abrasion resistance, or lack thereof. After 20 or so casts my line was visibly nicked and cut from the rocks. In fact got I a slight snag, popped the rod to release it and the line snapped.

I've yet to have abrasion problems like that with any p-line C brands, and I bottom fish a lot

[Packard]

Sounds like others had different results while using spinning reels. I used mine on a 6'6" MH/F St Croix Premier with a Curado 200e7 which is probably why the memory didn't effect my fishing. But I can argue that it has less stretch than the average monofilament.

[Bluebasser86]

I've got 8lb on a spinning rod, 15 on one baitcaster and 20 on another. It does have some memory in the heavier pound tests but a couple sprays of line conditioner and it's good to go. I really like the stuff, especially for $5 a spool.

[Hooligan]

I've had none of the issues you describe and have fished it around a lot of rock. I've fished it on Zebra Mussel lakes, too, and have had fewer break offs than with mono. It's my primary jerkbait and topwater line this year. I've had great luck with it thus far.

[J Francho]

Wind knots with a monofilament line? I associate wind knots with braid. Sounds like a line twist problem.

[Teal101]

I've yet to have abrasion problems like that with any p-line C brands, and I bottom fish a lot

I havent had the issue with CX and CXX. Those are two completely different beasts. My CX has had no issues like that, nor has my CXX. P-line states that C21 bridges the gap between the two lines, which I find very difficult to believe since it is half the cost of either. I'd rather ue CX.

I've had none of the issues you describe and have fished it around a lot of rock. I've fished it on Zebra Mussel lakes, too, and have had fewer break offs than with mono. It's my primary jerkbait and topwater line this year. I've had great luck with it thus far.

I havent fished a Mono line in years so I cant compare. I always us P-line copolymer nylon lines, braid, and fluoro.

Wind knots with a monofilament line? I associate wind knots with braid. Sounds like a line twist problem.

I guess I should be more specific. I've always used the term wind knot for knots formed in the line while casting. This may have been an issue with line twist, although I have not had the same issues while using P-Line fluoroclear. I think a lot of it had to do with the amount of memory the line had. For me, the $5 savings over P-Line fluoroclear is not worth it, I've never really had issues with abrasion resistance with it. This C21 was terrible, in my opinion.

For the recorod I have been fishing the P-Line Fluoroclear on a spinning setup for the past two weeks for Crappie and have had excellent results compared to C21.

[J Francho]

Fluoroclear is one of the more limp lines. If you are used to that, then many of the tougher copoly lines will probably annoy the heck out of you. I only use them casting gear.

[tomustang]

I've got 8lb on a spinning rod, 15 on one baitcaster and 20 on another. It does have some memory in the heavier pound tests but a couple sprays of line conditioner and it's good to go. I really like the stuff, especially for $5 a spool.

I never use conditioner, I should with the memory but after a few casts the wetness loosens it up and can go back down in lure weight easier

[Teal101]

Fluoroclear is one of the more limp lines. If you are used to that, then many of the tougher copoly lines will probably annoy the heck out of you. I only use them casting gear.

I have CX and CXX spooled up on other reels. If the C21 was anywhere as strong as the CX and CXX I could understand the memory being it is stiffer line. It however is not comparable in abrasion resistance in my findings. I run 6lb CX on my ML trout spinning outfit with little issue. CXX is for sure a casting only line.

[Hooligan]

And yet, I fish 6lb CXX on a dock rod, as well as on a dropshot or two, as well as 8lb on another weightless rod. You couldn't pay me to fish CX because of the terrible abrasion resistance and wet knot strength.

[tomustang]

You couldn't pay me to fish CX because of the terrible abrasion resistance and wet knot strength.

Total 180 here, but I've bent jig hooks to get my lures out from being stuck, with no nicks in the line on 6lb

It truly is a love/hate line

[Hooligan]

Total 180 here, but I've bent jig hooks to get my lures out from being stuck, with no nicks in the line on 6lb

It truly is a love/hate line

Sort of my point. We're all looking for different things in a line. I always find it interesting that people gravitate towards one or the other, particularly in PLine products.

[Fat-G]

Sort of my point. We're all looking for different things in a line. I always find it interesting that people gravitate towards one or the other, particularly in PLine products.

I lost a giant once to CX, never used it since.

I didn't like C21 on a jig or ************ rod, too much stretch (shocker, right?) but I put some of the 6# on my crappie setup yesterday and it's awesome! Got an hours worth of film catching giant bluegill!

[tomustang]

or ************ rod

You lost me on that one

[MediumHeavy]

Used some in 12lb today and it was fine. I didn't get any bites, but I got an X-Rap jerkbait snagged on a rock and broke the bill and straightened the front treble without the line breaking. I'm a fan of CXX and so far C21 seems pretty tough. I'll need more time with it, though. Especially after the water warms up a little and I get some bites!

[*Hootie]

I have fished every kind of line, from expensive line, to Walmart's 1 million yards for a dollar spools. Can't say I've EVER had a line issue that I didn't cause myself, from a haphazzardly tied knot, or failing to retie after a dozen fish caught, or dragging it over snags for two hours.

I work at BPS, and I believe about every line on our line wall is hated by someone. I hear several times a week, I hate that line, or, that's the worst line ever made. It never stops. And each person is talking about a different line. Oh well, I guess it's easier to blame the line, than our own laziness, or carelessness. Just sounding off.

Hootie