The one at East Shore you can try to make your argument, but any Marina that has a channel way in and out, like Treman or Myers, the decision by the NYS Court of Appeals in 1997, in the case of Douglaston Manor vs. Bahrakis, is pretty straight forward. That's consider private property and the owner of the Marina (City of Ithaca and Town of Lansing in those two particular cases) owns the fishing rights in those waters. It's not fishable, even by boat launched elsewhere on the lake. Same holds true, throughout the state, not just Cayuga.