rudderless

We have many underwater hazards here on the Mohawk river,upstate NY. Model T autos from many years ago, washers, tv's, bicycles, shopping carts, riprap near the locks and other.. We had a hurricane back in 2011 that added more to the hazards. Trees, cement tubes..6ft dia x 10ft long that were washed into the river when the flood water bypassed the locks on the sides. ...hence the needed "rope" to fetch our expensive lures..hopefully just needing hooks..

Well..while i was doing paper work in my office last night I settled on a placement scheme. Using the NGC and moving the choke point one guide closer for the KR system allows me to place rest of guides close enough to satisfy the static test. I also moved the butt guide to 16 inches to spool. Issue was If I stayed faithful to setting the reduction guides to NGC it would fail the static test. So by moving butt guide closer to reel and shortening the 3 reduction guides and choke point to16 inches in length from reel seat I could set the rest of guides..7 total..where the pole says they should be. My other sister pole I set up old school..proportional with 6 guides..and it works just fine. We will see if this setup is better than the sister pole. Both 5ft poles scribe a semi circle from reel seat to tip.. Thanx all..

yea..I might shorten the reduction guide length and run more running guides..that would help my situation. Using braid..the reel currently has 40lb 8 strand test on my other identical pole..only cause of all the obstructions in the Mohawk river. Gotta pull up hard to clear snags as I dislike loosing lures. I'll use 15lb for this pole.

Thanx all...appreciate the reply. Yep...it is a slow pole with 1000 aprox reel. I took the spool dia and multiply by 27 for choke point. If I use the projected line of the spool and it ends up almost past tip. So I used the 27 method. The pole has the Tennessee style so I shaved the cork where the reel sits at an angle so the projected line of spool ends up at the x27 mark. The CRB chart shows 8 guides for a 5ft pole...don't think I need 8.. If I use static test the main bend if pole is by the reduction guides. The first 16 inches is almost straight when pulled at a 90 deg angle. When i tape the guides on and pull to set the guides the reduction guides are closer together then the running guides. I bought the CRB guide set for it..20,12,8,6 and 4 running guides. No big deal...probably tryin to separate pepper from fly poop..it is a nice pole for confined areas...I have 10 other poles to use but I'm always grabbing that one. Again. thanx for the ideas!

I have built a couple rods..one from CRB and rebuilt a 5ft soft Daiwa that I bought mid 1970's or so...only had 3 guides. Both came out better than anything I have ever bought. I also have another identical Daiwa 5ft rod bought same time. Im in the process of placing the guides using the static test. When i bend the tip 90 deg to butt most of the bending happens at the reduction guides...about half way down the pole. This makes the guide placement using the NGC or the KT setup real funky looking. No where on that tangent bend chart does that pole fit either. I have checked out probably 5 different ways to place the guides but feel the static test is best. Why bother with that pole? It is real handy on my boat which is rather cramped. So...what to do..

No...its not a good thing...prices go up and service goes down.

If its still available i'd buy it from ya...nice winter repair project..when I can I buy used brokin and repair it...as long as it is not for the wife...she requires new...

Well..centrifugal force is the square of the velocity...so the faster spool spins the more force is applied. Don't know the force curve of mag brakes but it is probably more linear than centrifugal brakes.. I think those pins are constant spool drag just like the axial spool tension adj..no way they are centrifugal brakes..My 1996 sm3000c has centrifugal brakes..weight that spins with spool against a drum. Someone with proper measuring device needs to quantify the various drag curves.. might help folx set the adjustments properly.