Ok...more information on this thread. I am using an old abugarcia black max med heavy rod. I am dragging the bait slowly along the bottom. I feel the bite, usually on the pause. I see the somewhat slack line moving the I set the line up and hard, I guess you would say a snap. My 30 pound braid holds up but both my 17 and 22pound leaders have broken. I used 22 pound,but it was too stiff to tie. Two breaks were in the leader a couple inches from the bait, one was at the knot. One person was right, I am not big on knot wetting. Could contribute? Just frustrated!