I placed 2nd my first tournament, big fish second tournament 5th place, and top ten this weekend. Currently 2nd in points for AOY with no fish finder. That being said I'm getting one ASAP. It's a must have and it's terrible not having one. I like to fish deep. Crucial in locating deep structure, bottom composition changes, grass lines ect. If you plan on getting serious with it go for it. KBF has some awesome trail events.