Thank you all for the recommendations and everything I truly appreciate it! I am definitely bringing some night crawlers with me for my sons and will give the grubs and ned rig setup a try for them too.
Thank you very much. If it was just myself I have no problem going to main lake or anywhere with big boats have done it many times with my dad but my 2 haven't been on boats a ton so that is my big worry. That is how I grew up fishing around docks for crappie but when I was younger and my grandparents owned a house down there we knew many of the dock owners we fished and they didn't mind me making a mistake and I fished around my grandparents dock where we had many cedars too. But I didn't want to try dock fishing and having my kids hitting docks or worse down there. I may just try going down to TRL and going into the river arms.