Sammies77

This is why I've switched primarily to daiwa casting reels. I liked shimano until they came out with the e series, every e series reel I owned had a gear noise after using them a few times. My old chronarchs and curado d's are still silent and super smooth.

Sure sounds like gear noise to me. Seems like some people aren't bothered by gear noise in reels, but it drives me crazy! I've owned very few reels that didn't develop a gear noise after a little use.

You do realize that a 3000 size daiwa is almost the same size even slightly larger than a 4000 size shimano right? The 2500 daiwa bg is the same weight as the 2500 stradic fj was! Definitely not a heavy reel. Three ounces heavier?????? The bg 3000 is the same size as a 4000 and 5000 shimano. And it only .4 ounces heavier. I own the nasci and bg, the bg is hands down the better reel. Aluminum frame, direct drive handle, and much smoother after a little use.

Why is that? I have the 2500 bg and really like it so far, I've fished with it about 20 days now. It's still smooth, good drag, solid direct drive handle, aluminum body and frame... one of the best sub 100 dollar spinning reels I've owned, SO FAR anyway. If it stays smooth the rest of this season I will buy more. I definitely wouldn't consider a 9.2oz reel "heavy".

Like I said, it depends on how much you fish. I have numerous reels over 10 years old that are going strong but I've replaced parts on them, gear sets, bearings, AR bearings etc. There's a huge differencebetween 10 years and a lifetime.

They haven't changed the president in like 5 or 6 years, the previous model had a wooden knob. I totally disagree with that. Unless you fish only a few days a month, reels are going to wear out. The only reel I've had that lasted over 10 years without having to replace any parts is a daiwa ss1300.

I know it's not the brand you're asking about but for the two techniques you listed I would recommend the 7' medium/heavy power mod/fast action Falcon bucoo trap caster for 100 bucks! Great rods for the price! I have 3 legend tournament rods and I would say that the bucoos are just as sensitive, maybe even a tad more.

I guess I better hurry up and order a bunch of the original bucoo rods before they're gone. The best 100 dollar rod out there imo. A shame they've moved production to China.

Same scIII material, but they are definitely not the same blank. Different actions/tapers, rolled on different mandrels, avid blanks are made in the usa...mojo blanks are made in mexico.

The only rod that uses the same blank as the Avid is the Avid and Avid X.

The pro max is definitely not aluminum. And it's definitely not worth the extra money over the black max. Get a new fuego on ebay for 72 bucks and be done.

True but the tatula and falcon rod are far from mediocre.

I have the same japan model 3000 stradic with the lower gear ratio and love it. Also have a daiwa luvias with the lower gear ratio that is unbelievably smooth. The lower gear ratio spinning reels tend to be smoother.

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That's not necessarily a bad thing. I like spinning reels in 8-9 oz range. They seem to balance the best on most spinning rods. I think some guys get way too hung up on weight. If a 9 oz spinning reel is too heavy maybe golf or even knitting would be a better hobby.

Are you going to be using this rod for multiple baits? I have no advice on the ex6 series but I have a mag-medium loomis shakey head rod that I use when I wade for river smallmouth. It's a great all around rod for that purpose. It has a soft tip that shuts off quickly with good backbone. It's great for smaller jigs and tubes and is GREAT for throwing smaller cranks in shallow snaggy river bottoms.

I'm pretty sure those aren't made in the usa. Yes.

Too bad the only freshwater spinning reel shimano usa offers that's made in Japan is the stella. The sahara is made in Malaysia along with most of thier high and low end reels. Those sigmas are sweet! I have a few ultra light models I still use. The st.croix premier is still made in the usa.

You may be right! Since it does have the worm gear oscillation it probably uses the same main gear as the stradic. I still don't get why anyone would buy one for retail, you can get a new stradic 2500fk on ebay for 140-145 dollars.

Yeah it's pretty lame that shimano even makes spinning reels without direct drive handles. Same with daiwa, althought the new bg has direct drive. Pflueger Trion has a direct drive handle for 39 bucks. I'm not a fan of the two piece aluminum-pot metal main gear in the nasci either, and that's most likely the same gear the new ultegra uses. Oh but it must be the best right because it has hagene gearing forged by the ghosts of ancient Japanese swordmakers.

Looks like it doesn't have the direct drive handle, same as the nasci. It also looks to have a graphite body like the nasci. I wonder if it has worm gear oscillation? Shimano is really starting to downgrade thier reels under the stradic. For the price that a new stradic can be found for I'm not sure why anyone would buy this reel.

Is it the same as the original tatula or the new smaller tatula ct? Anyone know where the 4 extra bearings are? I'm guessing in the handle? I've never really been interested in the tatula because of the t-wing, so I don't really know much about them except that they get good reviews for the price. These new fuegos have me interested for 75 bucks new.

I guses what I'm trying to get at is shimano is about the only reel manufacturer that doesn't have a 100 dollar aluminum framed reel. The symetre used to be aluminum, but they cut cost and switched it to graphite. They try to confuse customers with silly catch phrases like hagene. You won't find ANY information stating what the frame is made from on the nasci anywhere on shimano's site. They are purposely trying to trick people into thinking it has an aluminumbody by putting a hagane logo right on the body. I'm not necessarily saying the nasci is a terrible reel, but it would definitely be better with an aluminum frame. It would also be better with a direct drive handle, heck even a 30 dollar pflueger Trion has one! And I'm not a shimano hater or whatever, I have plenty of stradic and older curados that I love.

Has anone had any experience with the new fuego casting reels? I know they aren't even close to the quality of the original fuegos but for the price (75 bucks new on the ebay) I was thinking about buying a few to replace some reels that were stolen. Is this reel basically a tatula without the t-wing system?

It's cheaper to build a graphite framed reel than aluminum. Thats all it comes down to period, It's all about profit. How well do you think the Stella would sell if they started making it with a graphite body? Compare a stradic and nasci side by side and see which one has more flex in the body and stem. You can argue your airplane, diving board, and bike theory all you want but it's pointless. A graphite framed reel has more flex than aluminum and causes gear misalignment under stress which leads to premature wear. Now reels like the ci4 or daiwa zion are a different story, they are far superior to the graphite material used on the nasci and other lower end reels.