1st post on BR so I'll do push-ups after posting but "Hamma's" post was spot-on and wanted to share my experience ref stealth for lunkers. For the past five years my son and I have fished very intently for LMB from kayaks and have enjoyed what I would call "better than average luck". He has caught 1x 10.7lbs, 2x >9lbs, several well over 8lbs all on artificials and in just five short years from lakes in NC and most recently in IL where he is going to college . I have watched him patiently stalk a bass boat waiting for them to leave a brush pile empty only for him to pull 7, 8, or 9 pounders off of it as the bass boaters scratch their heads in disbelief. I have tried to determine what it is that he/we are doing different and I can attribute much of it to the stealth of a kayak (pedal not paddle) and lack of electronics (motors, FF, etc). He certainly reads a tremendous amount on bass fishing (zoology major) and goes about lure selection very analytically and apparently with much success but to pull bass of those age groups from public waters out of a kayak in states no further south than NC or west than IL he's doing something right. Another observation is that those bass are actually in heavily fished public lakes, nothing special or out of the ordinary outside of the kayak. Would be interested if others have experienced the same, obviously many DD LMB are taken from boats of all sizes with various electronics but the numbers he is putting over the yak gunwhale seems, at least from my perspective, as a bit abnormal.