I have searched and read about C-riggin where there is grass in the lake. I know this topic has been beat a little also. One of the spots I fish has a lot of green on the bottom, though not to tall, maybe 6'', give or take a couple inches. I use a fluro leader and am sticking with that. I have some fly fishing strike indicators I use for fly fishing, do yall think that will work sticking one towards the worm to keep it up a little bit? I am aware of the Bettis carolina floater but nobody carries then in store around here and I am heading out monday, but it is something like this.. http://www.orvis.com/p/stick-on-oval-indicators/25ac