I tend to catch more bass in the pads when my 6 year-old is with me fishing for sunnies. I'll toss a weightless worm and then help him bait his hook, re-bait his hook, fix snagged line and take sunnies off his hook...letting that worm sink weightless and working it back that slow (and also using Gulp Alive) attracts fish From cast to cast it may take me 3-5 minutes to work it back, but I catch fish!