I also have always failed in the fall. Problem is finding the fish. I am a bank beater and they wont be there (well some will always be shallow but usually small bass).
I try where others say they should be in deeper water. creek channels, points, humps, etc up to 25'. I can mark fish but try everything in my box with no luck. I even video game fish and put drop shots, spoons, blades, jigs, etc on their nose.