One piece of advice when dealing with the MAX reels, is to not believe those that say they don't last, or are junk. They are quality, value priced reels in every sense. I've since upgraded to a Gen 3 S, SX, and STX, but my little Black Max is still kicking and just as smooth as it was when I bought it. I have it stuck back for my 13 year old daughter to use this summer.