juicehound

yeah i think i'm going to alter my annual fishing trip destination from now on - that was the worst experience i've ever had. i had a 10x better time in 2 hours 10 minutes away from my house than the entire trip to SL NY lol

yeah i'm considering changing my annual fishing trip to another location - possibly florida i don't like the idea of spending hundreds of dollars on a fishing trip where you catch squat to be honest the fishing has never been incredible at saranac any of the times i've been there....i've heard of people catching smallies like crazy - i don't know what the problem is but i don't think that place yields incredible fishing very often if at all, maybe just for me

so i came home from my trip saturday early b/c some idiot unplugged the cord from the wall that was charging my batteries so we had no trolling motor...i was so aggravated i had to catch some fish so i went to a local lake and fished for about 2.5 hours and caught about 20 largemouth 4 over 3lbs. lol that trip to saranac was the WORST fishing trip i've ever been on hands down

This is extremely aggrivating however it's not as bad as the fishing has been - I posted a huge reply to you yesterday and I guess it didn't go through or some crap like that So I'm posting again here I have tried everything and since we went out Wednesday evening we have 1 pike and 3 bass - its so ridiculous. We asked another couple guys on another boat yesterday and they said they did really well but I don't believe them - they said try black and chartreuse - its not like the bass will ONLY eat black and chartreuse And won't touch anything else... I haven't seen more than 3 fish on the surface today and didn't get anything on top water - I caught one more miniscule smallie on a brown/chartreuse tube but nothing else not even bites I can't believe how much this sucks - I came up here and paid 500+$ and I'm getting absolutely nothing for it but the beautiful sights I have tried drop shotting cranks tubes grubs worms top water rapalas and I'm not gettin bites from anything but rock bass and small yellow perch Its not like I have all the time to wait around for this to get better as we are leaving Saturday evening I don't know what else to do - this is extremely frustrating - I wish I came up earlier in the month like I was planning on - the lady that owns the place said the fishing was amazing last week too bad for me I guess

Okay I need HELP I'm at Saranac and the fishing is WRETCHED! Last night i caught nothing and tried everything casting to shore and along above water visual points. And today I fished top water this morning around 530 and got 1 minuscule smallie and rock bass ugh I tried crankbaits and grubs and worms - all I got was a largemouth and a sucker on the grub in 3 hours I'm assuming the bass are either in deep water or are not feeding because of the time being too close to the end of the spawn- if they are feeding in deep water how do I get a lure in front of their face? I don't have a fish finder and I don't know of any technique to get a lure to go deeper than 20 or so feet Please help!

wow! those are some fat smallies you got there! hahaha thats so sick! i booked my trip for the last weekend in june so hopefully i'll have a great time and catch a lot

wow! beautiful fish! and your gear looks similar to mine! ci4's are the bomb thats very cool - good luck w/ the certification man! THANK YOU so much for that advice - i'm so glad i haven't booked my trip yet So, if I were to pick a wednesday through saturday in June to go which one would you recommend? Justin

really? wow i may change the week i'm going then - I don't want to have to deal with those kinds of conditions - I want to be able to fish topwater and cranks and tubes and kill em - that's how it's been the other two times i've been there but we went later in June. what would be the best week to go? 3rd week in June? and don't apologize for the long post THANK YOU for posting so much great info for me - I really appreciate it!

hey thanks for your reply! I'm not familiar with saginaw or fish creek bay...are those in lower saranac? i know where the sister islands are though but not may other places - can i find the places you referenced on a map? yes! i'll definitely be picking up grubs - and some new colored tubes as well

hey everyone i'll be going to saranac lake in NY with my dad the first week of june/last week of may for some smallmouth fishing i've been there 3 times before but its been years since we've been able to go and i'm so excited to finally get back up there. just wondering if i can get some input from some more experienced SMB fisherman about what baits and patterns i should be looking for considering the time of year i'll be there. i'm going to be on the water each day by 4:45am i've used a lot of topwater (poppers and floating rapalas only really) and 3.75" tubes to catch them previous years any other lure ideas? thanks Justin

hmmm i'm not even a fan of it from people much older than myself - it's just a demeaning term to use when speaking to someone. thats all.

i'm not looking for a rod primarily for senkos - i don't have enough $ to get that specific w/ my gear in my case would the bcr803 be the better choice vs. the 893? i don't think you have the age required to call me "kid" seeing as you are more than 5 years younger than i am - unless you are an old man who submitted false information and a fake pic on your profile... at least bassn blvd is just about double my age +1 for the Lew's tournament pro SS reels i have two of them and they're fantastic - just wish they had a 6 pin centrifugal instead of the 4 pin

yeah it sure would be nice! or maybe they should discontinue some of their rods if necessary but i doubt that will happen lol definitely. bahahahahaha! that's hilarious!

no i don't like his response to my post on this thread - it was rude and accusational i have no problem with what anyone spends their money on as far as rods are concerned - i just don't think the 783 i have for senko fishing is worth it - that's why i'm going to try a different GLX - the 803 and see what happens now there's a quality post! thanks for sharing your thoughts - i agree with all of what you said like i wrote back to tom D, i'm not new to the sport of bass fishing and i'm just looking for an improvement in sensitivity vs. the BPS extreme; improvement that is enough to justify whatever increase in price the "better" rod happens to be. i'm going to pick up a bcr803 and see how that compares to the 843 and i'll post back here as soon as i test i've been fishing a LONG time - most of my life - probably about 18 years...so i've been able to learn the feel of a bite over those years fishing so i'm not making these comparisons just coming into the sport of bass fishing

now there's a moderator that i like!

why are so many people on here so rude and defensive/sensitive? - its not like you guys designed the rods or something.... i'm contributing to the thread b/c people on here have experience w/ bass gear and i'm looking for some advice/thoughts i googled overrated and GLX and it brought me here so i'm jumping into the convo b/c that's what i'm experiencing right now...so what's the big deal with that? and you are just like king road warrior - you didn't read my post correctly - i DO NOT like the BPS extreme rod better for several reasons BUT the sensitivity of the 843 is NOT GOOD ENOUGH for me to justifiy the price increase - thus i'm looking for an alternative and that was suggested by you and jeb2 so that's what i'll try and do you mean 803? must have been a typo and to your second comment you are completely wrong - i looked at the loomis website and for the MBR843C GLX it says " An excellent all around jig and worm rod especially in deep-water applications. The extra length gives you much more casting range too. Anglers have discovered its versatility for pike, walleyes, snook, redfish and other light saltwater species. It’s powerful, with a light tip and still has enough power to move fish away from cover. Works extremely well for soft jerkbaits. A classic example of GLX technology at it's finest. so don't tell me that i didn't look before i bought.

if a rod doesn't perform the way its price requires it to then it doesn't get my respect - that's just basic consumer satisfaction i do respect Gary Loomis and what he has done but for me the 783C wasn't exceptional for texas rigged senko fishing... sure - i had high expectations of them due to a lot of great reviews (including many on this website) of people who have used them and couldn't say enough about how amazing they were so i went on ebay and picked up what i thought would be the three most versatile rods in the GLX range and have been fishing with them lately. i purchased them without ever handling one at a store. hey ronnie you've got some quality jokes, but no thanks. alright great! i'll be looking for a used BCR803 and will be selling my MBR843 on ebay soon

yeah i knew it was a while back but didn't know exactly when - does that really matter lol the point is the company is no longer in his hands yeah i'm going to find the right rod for senkos and other bottom baits - the 843c is definitely not it for the price this is very helpful info thanks! i'll have to pick up a BCR GLX for kicks and see what happens- i'll also check out dobyns would the rods w/ the recoil guides add sensitivity for those type of techniques? i would think they would. not really... - it's my first post and i'm looking for some discussion/clarification on my experience - who are you king of the thread or something? you sure sound like it w/ your reply to my post jeb2 gave me some great info w/o a ridiculous statement/criticism of my first post, as did the others but why couldn't you? also i never said the two rods were equal in sensitivity - i would re-read my post. i said i didn't think the difference in sensitivity justifies the massive price difference. and have you even fished with a BPS extreme rod to make that statement? lol quite the lovely bunch we have here on BR forums... no trolling here - just dropped ~400 on two used MBR GLX's and not particularly happy w/ the value per dollar I am getting currently compared to other rods i own/have used (in this case the BPS extreme) looking for some actual input and help on what i experienced w/ the rods and i wasn't talking about anything but comparing sensitivity - they are most certainly not equal rods - the extreme rods are very heavy and the GLX's aren't for example i'm just making a statement of my experience with a rod that costs more than 4x the price of a different rod i own and stating that it doesn't outperform it to the degree to make it worth it!

idk...i think the GLX series is overrated. i have three of them - MBR843C, 844X, and SJR-782. I just went fishing today w/ texas rigged senkos using the 843 and honestly it was sensitive but not so much more sensitive than my Bass pro shops extreme rod to justify keeping the rod - No i'm not kidding or crazy - I've caught so many on the extreme rod and for a 70$ rod compared to my GLX which i got for an AMAZING price (considering its a glx) of 175$, I don't think the GLX is really worth the ~100& more...I'm sure there are rods that are comparably sensitive to the glx and significantly lighter than the heavy extreme rod that would be somewhere in the middle of those two in price that I would be much more satisfied with than both the GLX and BPS extreme my only question is why everyone raves about the GLX rods - they aren't really special to me at all - only thing i could think of is people telling themselves its the best rod they ever owned b/c they dropped nearly 400$ on it OR (and this is a question for all of you) is there a difference b/t the original loomis rods and those that are made by shimano...b/c that could explain why some love them and some think they are just good rods.