I agree completely with this. I think the lip of the shimano rotor really helps the line management and casting distance. My experience with daiwas is the fuego. I had 2 fuego 1000s, and its a great reel. My favorite thing about it is the bail/bail spring. Same with pflueger, i think they do there bail and strong bail spring right. Thats my only qualm with shimano, seems like there bail springs wear out. But, ive had every shimano from the sedona to the stella and i love the reels so much id never go to another brand. For the money, i dont think you can beat the original ci4, ci4+, or stradic fj. As darren said, im also a braid only user with flouro leaders so ive never had line management problems.