On most forums the shimano worshippers took great pains to bash the Spinfisher when it was re released. They made a point to bash the brand and claimed they were purposely cheating and lying. It all stemmed from the error of the Penn rep in his rather casual description of the seals and the reels designed purpose on a youtube video. The reel isnt water tight it is water resistant. Its not a Van Stall, ZeeBass or Penn Torque that are all designed to be "skished", thats a style of fishing some fools like to do in new York where they use the reel completely submerged while they do their best imitation of a seal in white shark invested cold waters. When the earliest reels came on the market some "reel experts" found that one seal in the spool assembly was often not installed correctly. It was a simple fix to simply loosen 3 screws push the seals edge inward and then tighten the screws. Its a great reel for its designed purpose and for the money. It isnt a $800 Van Stall and doesnt offer what the Van Stall does at a cheaper price. The real problem is a lot of people demand that it is and treat it like it is, then cry when it doesnt perform like it is. Go to alan tani's forum where the "reel experts" hang out and give each other advise. In the spinning reel sub forum you will find an entire tutorial on how to maintain and pre treat the reel to insure it will give you a decade or more of faithful service.