Last generation vanfords and stradics, earlier models too. It's part of their bail design, but if you use them as others have described they work fine, just me being awkward with the way I use the reel. I have a very efficient way of putting my finger on the spool as I open the bail to make the cast, rather than looping the line under my index finger, which is more common. I open the bail at whatever part of the rotation it is in, and at one point in the rotation shimanos will click open, but snap shut when cast, Daiwas just won't let you fully open the bail at the same point, so it's not an issue.