ok thanks and as for price a firend of mine and his dad go to the gun show every year and he buy a bag of 500 once fired for about 20 dollars , wich im hoping they still are at the same price but you know how things go. but thanks for you help iv been reading everywhere that there not worth the money because of the possibility of to much poder in some and not enough in the other.
to me there is a slim chance with even new ammo it could happen but hopefully wont.