None taken, even if you were saying I was doing something wrong, I wouldn't be offended, I'm sorta new to this. Anyway, I have tried many lures, some several ways. My Rapala Original Floater I've been trying a lot, I have done a quick, steady retrieve, a slow steady, and a pausing retrieve. I have tried my Hula Popper several times, sometimes letting it sit for longer or shorter times (can't have a lot of variation in those). I have tried my Yum Dingers, letting it sit a little in wacky, texas, and backwards rigging, giving it some twitches, everything. I've even used a rage tail toad, trying a slow steady retrieve, letting it sink a little, and a fast retrieve. And that's only what I'VE done, my friend has been fishing for many more years than me and has been fishing this lake at least two or three years more. He's tried EVERYTHING, and the only thing that seems to consistently catch us fish are the sunnies we catch. He has floaters, sinkers, soft plastics, all kinds of things. I'm not even sure if theres anything that will work, that lake is EXTREMELY weedy (has lots of weeds growing from the bottom, not like the weeds on the edges of lakes) which makes it almost impossible to fish sinking crankbaits or other lures that aren't weedless. I don't think there's another lake like it, my friend and I call it a freak lake. If you know some other way of presenting the lures we have that could actually catch some fish, please let me know, I want to get used to lures instead of live bait.