Brian Needham

speedbead...I can only imagine what you see at the counter day in day out.. you hit it on the head......I hate to snip your post but here is what I have gather in my dealings I ask people why do you carry and here are their answers OC: because I can CC: for personal protection very different answers, and from my view (and MANY will disagree) to para phrase a golf saying: One carries for show and the other carries to keep his doe.

the rage craw is an active senko in a way........ there is no wrong way.

thanks, Heavy dluxe! yes we are all on the same side, which is why said that list is "devils adovcate" but I shall contend..... Ben Franklin said Beer is proof that there is a God, and he loves us! so it must be an inaleinable right!!!! LMAO just a little humor to start the morning. really though, the list shows all the things we do, while not supected of a crime, we show ID. so I dont find it a big deal to show it to LEO. I dont find it an infringment on my 4th or 5th..... I find it (as a law abiding guy) helping LEO...... no if they want to pilfer through my truck, or generally pat me down, then thats a different story. we probably disagree on that one and thats ok cause that is a really fine line. that said, I totally agree on the difference between private sector asking for ID(cold medicine ect) and GOV asking. I dont wouldnt consent to searches either, though I never been asked either. on the off chance I am stopped, I tell them I am CC, LEO ask where is it, I tell them, LEO says dont show me yours and I wont show you mine..... everyone walks away happy and safe. I must say too, many of my thoughts and practices are due to what happened in my town a few years ago..... a soverign citizen and his 16 year old son were getting off the exit here and were pulled over for speeding (IIRC) he didnt have a drivers license cause he didnt believe in it, traffic stop continued yadda yadda.... then the 16 year old son pops out of the van with an AK47 and mows down the 2 LEOS on the side of the road left for dead, both LEO die..... all becasue this idiot thought paying for a DL was infringeing on his "rights" ..... the 2 sovergin citizens get trapped in the walmart parking trying to change plates and die in a hail of gun fire....... 2 LEO lost their life, and a few other injured , plus 2 citizens died..... all because someone didnt want to show or have ID. IMO, there is no reason for any of that to happen. I think we all agree on the camera jockys are sad and silly......it is amazing how a spoonfull of poop ruins the entire bowl of ice cream! thanks for joining the fray..... I like talking about these types of things and getting in depth without degrading to a "I am more conservative or more correct than you"........ so amen corners are a ok! I love the castle doctrine, stand your ground laws btw.

ha...... no been cleaning up ice storm damage, playing cards, shooting guns, and running my mouth...just about everything BUT fishing.

ratio means nothing.........whats the IPT

1/2 + trailer = 735

heavy deluxe........that is a well rounded take. and I agree. with the CC without a permit....... here is where I differ, and I can admit that it is a sole product of where I live, which is pretty average America (sadly) guy gets stopped. drugs are found and a gun. the drug charge is more often than not dropped or pleaded out, but the gun charge always sticks. but if you are allowed to CC without permit, the criminal at this point walks off all charges. which is bad, IMO. don't get me wrong I am a gun supporter, however I don't think any side has this 100% right 100% of the time. take for instance the "I don't show ID crowd" ... (list is devils advocate) do you support voter ID? then show your ID to LEO do you show ID for beer? then show it to LEO do you show ID at the bank? then show it to LEO would you or do you have a problem with a couple of muslim guys driving a Uhaul being asked for ID? then you need to show yours to LEO Have an issue with Trayvon being asked? then show yours to LEO Have a cold, need meds? better whip out that ID Need to renew your car tags? get that ID ready I could go on and on, but I think yall see my point...... we show ID for numerous things so its no big deal right? but I guess if you are in a "sovereign citizen" camp, I digress. heavy delux I don't want you to think I am directing this at you cause I am not..... I agree with your post, then I got off on a tangent LOL

looks cool as hell......... how much?

look everybody........Captain Obvious showed up!!!!!!!!! sorry Coryn I had to.

you got it right....... rural areas its not a big deal.... NYC totally different book. not that it should be, but it is what it is. as always I enjoy your take on things Ajay

TRUTH!

I think whether we agree or disagree...... we have crazies in both camp, both CC and OC. I for one have talked to several LEO in my area and they all say they are glad myself/and others CC. they tell me "never leave home without it" ....... but me personally I would never open carry on the streets of Memphis...

I dont have a issue with open carry per say. I have found open carry has more attitude than CC, thats my experience, others may vary. I also see it ultra foolish to not show ID when asked, it dont make good sense to me...... show your ID and its a 30 sec interaction with LEO...... yet the open carry on youtube want to stand there and rant for 10 minutes..... if you dont want to talk to LEO then why we you standing there talking for 10 minutes?? its stupid! but they want to stand there to talk for ten minutes so they can brag to thier friends and film it...... they go looking for it..... which it TOTALLY contadicts the point and reason of open carry, IMO. plus open carry holds no tactical advantage over CC.

where do yall stand? I love watching the vids on youtube of people making a jackass out of themselves with LEOs. Arkansas has passed act 746...... which is open carry. In fact it allows anyone to open or conceal carry without permit. It just doesnt seem right...... I had to "pass" a class to CC but now everyone can? seems foolish...... seems now everyone will be a suspect during a traffic stop. the open carry folks do crack me up though....... its like they go looking for people to stare at them, and grade thier day by how good/bad "interaction with LEO"..... then whine about being detained and right violated simply because someone asked for ID. I say if you dont like it, CC like everyone else. and it find the bravdo of open carriers a wee bit high, sadly those who talk noramally tick thier pants when it hits the fan, but I digress. what say yall??????

I Liked it, but I too do not get the ending.

LOL, thats funny cause the first night I was standing on the balcony and asking myself what that smell was...... thinkning I had some serious BO kicking. Jon walks in and I ask him "do you smell that or am I that rank?" he then explained what a paper mill smelled like, LMAO. after that I really never noticed it though..... but then again I smell West Memphis everyday so I am immune to most smells.

other than the first night I never really noticed the smell. of course I went to bed as early as possible too.SO I really just eat, fish, eat, sleep all week , in that order.

youtube has plenty of AR carriers.......... check out the open carry vids, good comedy.

yeah raider, but I am trigger POOR! LMAO

like they say.......happiness is a warm barrel!! I keep wanting a AR type gun, I just havent pulled the trigger...... and I shoot my G19 enough they I really dont want two ammo bills. Almost makes me want to get a AR chambered in 9mm or an MP5 type weapon

he must have been conducting a "piviotal experiment" trying to see if he could jump over the said knife set?

if you are wanting a cranking stick just to have a cranking stick then the BPS crankin' sticks are good for the money. also if you are willing to go used, you can also look at duckett crankin line. you might even be able to squeeze a dobyns cranking stick in there if you shop.

atleast I got that going for me

from the videos I have seen it does not look like the frags penetrate deep, though the "center disk" goes about 16 inches. I say not very deep, I am comparing to "FBI spec" of 12in minimuim. that said, wouldnt want to be shot with it, but dont want to carry it either.

gotcha, I thought you might have been talking pre LA/Miami. I wasnt trying to draw any point of contention. I should have asked, instead of stated.