Also, if you're on a small john boat or even a kayak, you don't have the same leverage as if you were standing. On my kayak I use a 7' heavy rod with 15# yozuri, but I trim my weed guards off by at least half and resharpen the hooks often. When you feel a strike, lower your rod tip all the way down to the water as you reel in some slack, then WHAM.