My zillion is by far my least favorite reel behind MGX obviously, but also pat.XT, team lews,old premier, tourney pro. I think I would take any $200-$250 reel from any manufacturer over a zillion. Everywhere i look there is people praising it and I just dont get it. It is the reason I will probably mever buy another daiwa except for maybe a steez if i can find one for under $400.