I'm new to the whole forum thing (it's been a long winter), so I really don't know, but I have to wonder if the same kind of talk was going around last year about the red eye shad. Was it, "just another lipless" until people actually tried it? My 14 year old son bought some of these new KVD squarebills several weeks ago and he told me then, "If KVD wins the classic this year, this is what he will be throwing." Ofcoarse he just figured that's what would be said, no matter what. But anyway, I just wonder if next year people will be singing the praises of the new KVD squarebill.