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Well when you turn a pin brake on/off the pin is still there its not taken away. The pin just wont move outward. The weight is still there to keep balance. Ill run one pin on with any of my casters that use them see/feel no ill effect. I will say when/if I run multiple pins I equalize the spacing 2-opposite and 3 in Y pattern.

If the Zolo doesnt workout here is another lightweight. I have an Okuma Helios MH/F rated to 1oz and weighs 3.5oz and balances well with core50mg7. Balance point maybe an inch from reel. They can be found for $140 so a bit less than MSRP.

KEITECH SWING IMPACT 4" 4.706 0.166 KEITECH FAT IMPACT 4.3" 10.583 0.37330 KEITECH EASY SHINER 2" 0.994 0.03505 MEGABASS HAZEDONG 4.2" 7.674 0.27070 NORIES SPOONTAIL SHAD 5" 10.679 0.37669 RIVER2SEA SPITTIN WA FROG 14.404 0.50810 ROBOWORM FAT 6" 5.522 0.19475 ZMAN TRD 2.75" 3.913-4.331 0.1380-0.1527 JIGHEADS ZMAN SHROOMS 1/20 1.669 0.05890 1/10 3.740 0.13195 1/5 5.399 0.19045 ** BLACK 2 7'6" MH/F 165.25 5.829

Okuma Helios in your price range 7'6" XH http://www.walmart.com/ip/Okuma-Helios-Mini-Guide-Casting-Rod-7-6-Xtra-Heavy-1-Piece/45714224

This quirk has been mentioned but there doesnt seem to be a fix for it just work around. Other sites are easier to just go back to previous place but not here anymore. Plus "veiw new content" shows ALL content for some reason.

The Daiwa SV105 baitcasting reel is very easy to skip with.

no a few years old now.

I have a couple Smoke rods(my favorite rods actually) and PPS8S works very well followed by Smackdown these are 8 strand lines. Any 4 strand line is going to be noisier, worst offender Ive tried being Sufix performance braid 20#.

My St Croix Legend Elite 7'6" M/F is 3.9oz

Ive used 12# Sniper with my CI4 throwing ikas. I set the reel 2 brakes internal, 4 on the dial. I have 0 issues with this setting. Its now on a 50E with 2 brakes on throwing keitech paddle tails. I never have used L&L on the line. I have 10# Sniper on a Daiwa SV105 brake setting 5 tossing 1/10 ned rig threw very well. I tried going light on the brakes 2 clicks and that didnt work out too well. I also had the 50E with 10# had same setting of 2 brakes on no issues. No L&L on this line either.

This may be a potential favorite looking forward to using the ned rig w/baitcaster at ice out.

Spinning set-up 8' MediumLight Moderate Avid, 6# Nanofil, reel Shimano Stradic 1000 Casting 7'6" MediumLight Mod-Fast Shimano Cumara rod 10# PPS8S braid Core50mg reel. Will switch out the Core this year for DaiwaSV105P see how that handles. I throw MFR-3's as well, bit more compact for the weight thrown.

FULL SPOOL--You definitely want the base of the braid on TIGHT. This will help prevent digging issues later on. Yes the top portion that you cast out will loosen up after casting but the base/remainder of the line will still be tight. You wont be digging into the base material easily. If you finger tight a full spool of braid a good hookset will bury the line in itself much deeper than a TIGHT base. PARTIAL SPOOL w/BACKING--If you use only a topping of braid to begin with say 150' or so this wont matter much, getting braid tight, but the backing material filler should be put on very tight as well.

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I dont ever really view individual forums just have set up to view posts since last visit, all the forums are jumbled together. The thing is those that dont want one wouldnt have to go to it if they didnt want to, if they view forums separately. But I have a feeling if there was one the ones that voted NO would be in there rambling their 2cents.

If you want to use DVT's words OK-- DVT quote http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/86950-tip-heavy/?p=991184 "Weight added weight anywhere on the blank has a negative affect on sensitivity. With that said, a small amount of weight on the butt area would have the least affect and admittedly probably less that human hands could detect" -- Im not discrediting him Im using his own words. Weight anywhere on the blank so that would include the reel seat area with heavier reel or say larger guides towards the tip, anywhere. And then stated small weight on the butt will have the least effect (on sensitivity) less than could be detected so that would lead it to being the best place to add weight if wanting to.

When you put a reel on the rod that is weight on the blank the same as if you put weight on the butt with a cap you are putting weight on the blank. The weight is just attached to a different point. So instead of switching a 5oz reel for a 7oz reel you can add much less weight to the blank on the rear for greater effect.

Well the colors of s8s are on the lighter side to begin with. Moss Green regular powerpro is much darker than s8s aqua green so it will remain darker even well worn. For fading Trilene Pro braid holds its color the longest of the brands Ive tried.

and adding a heavier reel (like you mention to do at times) to balance is an even dumber idea

Ive compared 20# s8s to 20# 832 and with various knots (palomar uni fishnfool trilene) s8s holds more weight. Every knot held past 20# on the S8S. With the palomar knot the 832 gave at little over 18# a couple times. S8S is quieter as well.

I've never held, or heard of, a rod that would balance right at the reel seat with no reel mounted on the rod. I replied the same see my underlined bold text

we had this discussion before and its better than adding even more weight with heavier reel. If it makes it more balanced it will help with sensitivity. Why add 3-4oz to rod,with reel, when 1/2-3/4 will do the same the less weight added overall the better. DVT quote http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/86950-tip-heavy/?p=991184 "Weight added weight anywhere on the blank has a negative affect on sensitivity. With that said, a small amount of weight on the butt area would have the least affect and admittedly probably less that human hands could detect" quote from: http://www.fishing-tackle-repair.com/rod-crafting/resource/articles/rod-balancing.html "Jump Lures Jigs, Worms, Spoons, etc. These are slack line techniques and tip heavy rods can be made more sensitive by adding weight to the butt."

That would be a poorly made rod. I have 5.5oz reel and 4.8oz 7'1" rod that balances 1/2" or so from reel And the same 5.5oz reel on my 3.4oz 7' rod balances about maybe 3/4" in front of reel A custom made 7' 5oz rod could be made to balance under a 5oz reel. Change hand position all you want palm the reel where ever but the balance point wont change it will remain the same.

So if you're at a seesaw and balance both ends, 50 pound kid on one end and 50 pound kid on the other, and add weight at the center fulcrum the balance will be out? No, The balance will remain the same