Nitrofreak

I think of schooling fish this way, the preditor fish are concentrated on getting the school of fish to a more concentrated area, the bass will push these bait fish into a tighter and tighter ball untill it becomes very easy to pick some off, they will use tactics to injure the fish and pick from the weekest of the bunch, you will notice the bait ball breaking up from time to time as they accomplish this task, when the bait ball gets broken up is when you have your best opportunity to catch a feeding fish, dropping a spoon in or a fluke in the location of the bass when fishing this deep may or may not yeild your best result, make sure you match the lure to the bait fish size, too big and they may dismiss the bait, if they work the bait ball to shallower water, shallower baits become more effective and even top water baits will entice strikes if they are in a frenzy, at 30 to 50 feet of water the color of the bait becomes less and less important if you are looking to duplicate color, at that depth I use darker colors to give off shadows instead of trying to mimic a bait fish, to me size and sound becomes more important at that depth than does lighter colors, small dark jigs with a rattle is one of the most effective ways I have found to attract bites, if the water is very clear or it's a bright sunny day with slightly stained water I will try a brighter color bait, other than that I go for black and blue/black, be patient, when working a bait ball that deep as well, when they decide to feed and the bait ball starts to scatter about, drop your bait right in on the fish below the bait ball and shake it or rip it up and let it fall again. Hope that helps !!! Good luck and be safe !!!

Zoff, Can you go over the issue you had finding fish again, you had said in one of our conversations about locating a bait ball and not being able to catch fish that were around and under the bait ball. I remember most of the conversation but some of the details seem to excape me, would you mind repeting the problem again?

Usually it did not make a difference years ago, but todays vehicles and their systems are very sensitive with lamda o2 sensors and fuel injectors that are very sensitive to fuels that are less than quality grade stuff. Manufactures are forcing fuel companies to make better quality fuel as the government required standards for fuel milage keeps increasing. So depending on year make and model, It could potentially cause an issue, if it's an older truck it will most likely have no effect if mixed with a full tank of fuel, newer than 08 I would think twice about it, newer than 2010, I would not recomend it at all. I have been in the automotive industry for 40 years now, the changes I have seen and the adverse effects chemicals have on fuel systems today are really sensitive to any change outside of the norm.

Homework is always the first key to fishing new waters, a map is part of that homework, I have the tendency to look for feeder creeks first, and then points with interest, and the structure of the areas. It depends on the time of year it is as to where I look first to find bass, structure imo is first, I am looking for the best structure I can find, I will look at the longest point on the map and start my elimination there, does the point have deep water access, does it have steep drops, gental slopes, or a combination of both is even better. I also use Google maps to help aid in visual aspects of possibilities, docks, lay downs, shallower large grassy areas, how much of each is located there. The only time I look at the shore is when I am trying to get a picture of what a point looks like as it merges with the water and continues it's structure under the water. As with any body of water nothing beats time on that water, take your time and put the most information you can together to give yourself the best available option to locate the fish, you may have already chosen a bait to start fishing with before you even get your boat wet, once you get to the location you have chosen you may find something unexpected and wish to try a different choice, trust that instinct and let yourself explore. Once you have chosen an area, pick that area apart from top to bottom, make mental notes of what is there for structure and cover by keeping a journal, if that area did not work today, it may be worth the effort to try again in the future. Good luck and be safe !!!

LMFAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG THAT IS HILARIOUS PAPPA JOE !!!!!!!!!!

Good question Sam. I did not bother with Hotels/Motels, their prices vary so much from place to place and the area may not be acceptable for a comfortable feeling when having a family and or boat with you. I personally would rather you guy's research those so that you feel comfortable with a suitable area to fit your needs and feelings of security.

Vote change noted Traveler, Thank you !!!

Your vote has been noted as a change Traveler thank you !!! That makes SML tied with the Potomac right now. Any other votes guys we need them soon ok !! January 1st is coming in a hurry !!! I also voted for SML, I tried to find a decent campground and failed to find one that was RV friendly with in an hours drive on both sides, Va. and Md. however I found many that were tent/cabin friendly.

Wow !!!! Really???? That is just down right sad, but one would still think somone had to know the dangers involved, I am sure money played a part in their decision to perform such an act without so much as a stitch of protection, seems shady that this was for a movie, all the stunt people I have ever seen have backup's to back up the backup's if something should go wrong, this just does not make any sense.

On another note, look at how shallow the water is, the boat engine is up, and at the end of the video you notice a rock that comes flying towards the camera.

Is it just me, or does the one dropping the grenade have a patch on his jacket that resembles a government services emblem? It's hard to tell but it looks like there is.

WOW !!!!! ......I mean what else is there to say?

I fail to see the concern of them actually living through a self inflicted act such as this one....IDIOTS !!!!

3 young teens walked into their local Wal-Mart today..............you think one of them would have seen it !!!

OOPS !!! I did forget to mention that didn't I LOL !!!

Still only 4 votes total, I know there are more than 4 people interested in doing this. Remember we want a decision by the first of January so everyone will have time to save up and get their reservations in on time !!! If you have a preference please cast your vote, it looks like the Potomac and SML are in the running with the Potomac in the lead !!!!

Another good read is "Structure Situations" by Buck Perry.

I have a 1990 Nitro and to this day still no issues other than the ones relating to old age, I have friends that have newer Nitros and none of them are complaining about anything. I would venture to say that your selling dealer is not a good dealer, nor would they be a good rep for Nitro boats in general, if it came off the truck with issues you should have declined the sale until you were satisfied with the repairs or someone made it right imo. Sounds like the dealer is not holding up to their end, I am sorry to hear of your issues and I wish you the best of luck in getting them resolved !!

I will say however.... the girl in the video is worth lookin at....as long as the volume is turned off.

I guess one could just type the message....but then again, where's the fun in that?

I guess I am just gonna buy me a bunch of CD's and forget about the radio all together. This keeps up, the only way to change something like that would be to write your local radio stations, but then again what good would that do. I think I will just go fishin and forget about the music all together !!

LOL !!!!

I'm from that era, Southern rock and some heavy metal was really good back in the day, but just like country music, it has it's place. Any mixing of the two should be ever so slightly if at all in my opinion. I think the only band that should be allowed to cross both bridges would be the Eagles, as far as singles, I like Jim Croche, Gordon Lightfoot kinda stuff too, they also could almost be concidered both. "Hick Hop" ???? What the crap is that?? He keeps that stuff up he won't be around for too long....I hope !!!

uuuuuuuuummmmmmm.... lookin at yours, it ain't no slouch either lol !!!

And here I thought all along it was because you liked fairy tales with happy endings lol !!