Nitrofreak

That is what it is all about, us getting people like you on the water and having some fun learning as we go, we look forward to meeting you CP !!!

There is a good point there, but I have a question, How long do you think the migration will stay there anyway? if the enviroment is not sustainable for life or spawning, the bass will not stay there, so even if an angler was to return the fish to its home area, this one in particular, they, the bass, know that if that area is not suitable enough to sustain life they will move out, no matter how many fish the angler catches from there, eventually the bass are going to move out on their own, they will look for areas that are better suited for raising fry and ones that have a higher chance of survival of their species.

Sweet and Sour Pork Chops tonight, with grilled corn on the cob and wild rice !! 4 large thick pork chops "Bone In" cooked the way you like them, grilled, broiled, oven baked. 4 ears of sweet yellow corn on the cob still in the shuck, grill them as you grill the chops. Cook the wild rice while your chops are cooking. Sweet and Sour Sauce, 1/2 cup of firmly packed brown sugar, I prefer light brown sugar, you can use dark but it will give it a really sweet taste and you won't get the eveness of sweet and sour. 2 Tablespoons of Corn Starch 1 large can of pineapple, chunks or crushed 1/4 cup of white vinegar, or 1/16 of a cup if you don't want it to have a bite to it. 1/2 of a finely chopped Red Bell Pepper Mix the brown sugar and starch together until the brown sugar no longer clumps and it looks like a powdered sugar mix, if the mix does not smooth out, add or keep adding a touch more corn starch until it does, just be really careful not to add too much starch, add in the vinegar and the pineapple and mix thuroghly, if there is not much pineapple juice in the can you can add a little of your favorite juice, apple or orange juice, the mixture should look nice and wet but it needs to be somewhat thick. If you like your peppers to have a charred taste to them you can pre-grill them first, it adds an excellent flavor to the sauce, otherwise just add the red pepper to the mix and stir again. Turn the burner on medium high and stir continuously until mixture starts to thicken nicely, remove from heat, try to avoid making it boil, it tends to give the sauce a burnt taste and it really makes a mess too. You can either use the sauce to make sweet and sour rice, or you can use it for the chops, or both, one of my families favorite dishes.

Sam, First of all thats an interesting topic of discussion, you gave us an interesting proposal, nice job buddy ! Something tells me you have already done some research lol !! Merc1997, While I agree with the release of the bass being in one general area as most of us do here in Va. as well, I do not agree with it seeming to hurt our bass populations in upper regions of such waters. Out of the thousands of tournaments over the years, also thousands upon thousands of fish have been released in one general area here at my favorite lake, most are concentrated out of a place called Sturgeon Creek, but there are 3 major areas on this lake that have tournaments, so we can multiply that times 3, if the bass do not travel too far after a release then one would think that the areas where most of the fish are released would be packed with Anglers all the time and would not have to go very far at all to catch fish. This lake has been having tournaments for 40 years or very close to it, if that were the case all the fish would or should be located in the mid lake region. Fact is fish migrate to locations all the time, each body of water has it's own eco system, it's own structure, the fish simply do not stay in one place for an extended period of time especially if there is not an abundance of forage, think about something here, these fish that are caught and released also have a mortality rating, some survive some do not, but for every fish caught in a tournament and transported to a new location from a tournament angler, there are 10 others that are caught in the same locations from each of the weekend anglers and released in the same location from the catch, how many more weekend anglers do we have vs. tournament anglers? It's not all the anglers that fish upper regions of the lake that makes the fishing tough, although I am not saying it does not impact the thriving population of the upper regions of your waters, it also means there is something else is going on as to why the population of fish do not thrive in one area vs. another. In my home lake, the bass used to be abundant, 50 bass days were common way back when, but over 40 years of storms, boat traffic, etc... the lake has changed a lot, fishing holes get silted in, tree stumps rot away, just a couple of the many, many reasons why fish tend to populate in upper regions of older lakes, but not every lake is the same, it's up to all of us to understand these kind of changes and adjust our techniques accordingly.

Not yet, it will be on Jan 1st.

CP, Will you be able to join us for the Meet and Greet? You will have a chance to fish with any one of the fellers !!!

By the way great job on the video man !!!!

I wouldn't be so sure thats a blooper LOL !!!

LMAO !!! Box my ears huh LOL !!! Rhino, maybe you and I can try to box our ears, but since Traveler is meeting up with you, he knows too many men in black suites for me to take him on, so I will leave you with a promise, I promise to find a way to get there, but I can not see into the future, family is always first so if it works out I will be there and I look forward to shaking your hand sir !!! As you travel 81 South, when you get to mile marker 256 or 255 I can't remember, you will travel through an underpass, look to your left and you will see a big brick home first, to the right of that house will be a light yellow house, that will be me, I will already be at work but at least when you see the house you know that I will be thinking about you guys, If I am not already there to meet ya in Tenn.

There is so much truth to that...oh wise one !!! I did use what I had and worked it pretty hard, the fact is the fish there did not want movement of any kind or at least very little, very long pauses were the key or very slow movement, had I had the pointers and my spoons I possibly could have kept up, even the top water got a couple of near takes on really long pause times but still I think the 5 1/2 spoon would have performed very well, jigs for some reason on a very long pause and a host of slow presentations did not cut the mustard either, they were keyed on the shad. However now that you mention it, one other thing comes to mind, I did have a swim jig, but I did not present it at the right time, instead I focused on getting the JB to work that Quan offered and lost all other focus on other techniques and presentations I had left, hopping a swim bait off the bottom may have produced results but I still think the fall rate would have been to fast for what they wanted.

Good !!! Now maybe you can get the other half of that boat !!! LOL !!!

AHHHH HAAAAA !!! Thats why I have not seen any postings from you !!! Endless, Congrats buddy !!! that is one fine deer you have there, your first one, looks like a nice job on the placement and it should be some good eatin for ya !!! Nick76 Congrats to you as well, nice job !!! Everyones first deer is always special, both my girls got their first last season and I know the joy you are both feeling, Congats and enjoy, just be careful out there guys !!!

I say we get to vote who stays and who goes, let's load all of those others and leave the fishermen and the hard working farmers here !!!

Hmmmm, I have not even got there yet and already I am being shunned LOL !!!! Thanx RW I will check into that !!

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I was hoping you would get a ticket for the death star LOL !!! At least that way I would have an insider incase I needed to hitch a ride. DARN !!! oh well, plan "B" Look at the bright side, you don't have any warning points...yet, and thats a good thing !!!

Dude !!! I am trying so hard it's killing me lol !! I would love nothing more than to come down there and share some good times and some great memories with all of you !!!! RW, I had seen the campgrounds and stuff there from the original post link that you provided, thanx a bunch for doing that by the way. I do not know if it will all pan out yet but it's going to be a last minute trip I feel, so do you or anyone else know how full the campgrounds stay and how far ahead I need to make a reservation for the campground?

Is there a time limit on this trip? What I am asking I guess, is there a cut off date to get in with you guy's ?

Already did, I bought a new tackle box that will hold almost everything....yes they are already packed lol !!!

if I have offended anyone, I offer my sincerest apologies, I am only offering my approach to fishing the Res had I not fished with Quanjig, a different look at some things may help you with some of your waters. Good luck and be safe !!!

No, I pulled the same trick as I did with you, I got so excited about the trip I forgot to double check my tackle LOL !!!

The homework I did or the point I was going to make was that since this was a winter pattern, I am looking for shallow waterways leading to a main body of water, the point that Quan and I fished was not far off from where I had originally thought about fishing, or wanted to fish with him, warm water will draw bait fish such as shad since they can not survive the cold, a period of warm days will heat up narrow shallow waterways and since I went back two weeks and tracked the weather, the area he caught fish in was close to where I would have suggested, this particular area also had 2 contributaries with a Y shaped entry to the spot we fished, current was also a deciding factor as to where I would have started my search, we all know how much shad love current, this particular point had everything a bait fish could want, including some really great cover, and for a winter pattern it had everything I would want. There is no doubt that electronics play a huge roll in aiding the ability to find fish, but what if you had none how would you know where to look? To me this would have been my first option or a great starting point from an outside perspective having never been there before.

His knowlage was not in question here, at least from my point of view, my thought was what if he were to question me about what I know or did I do my homework, I wanted to be prepaired for anything of that nature, please don't think for one minute that I would ever undermine that, we all know how very strong he is about the Res and fishing in general on any body of water. What I was getting at is that we have a different approach to everything and that is one of the points of this discussion to learn thought processes and key in on strength areas.

I forgot to vote, sorry bout that !!!

No not the Res specifically Mudkart. We are going to look at a lot of different things here to help others get a leg up for seasonal patterns etc...for any body of water they may be having a little difficulty with But let's take Mudkarts lead and start here, this is an excellent place to start, case in point, before I fished with Quanjig, what should have been my first assignment? Just because I knew how much in touch with the Res he was, should I have just let him take me where he wanted to go and let him do all the leg work for me? What if he asked me questions as to where I wanted to fish? This is a totally new body of water to me, I already know it's a winter pattern, how? I got a little info from Quan a few days before I fished with him, I got the water clearity, surface temp and what the weather was going to be like for the day, the next thing I did was get a topo map and I also looked at the water surface from a google map, good start Mudkart !! What do you think I am looking for? remember we are in a winter pattern here.