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Jerryvon

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  • Birthday 11/08/1982

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  1. Just an update, I finally find a source to forward my concern to the head people who is in charge of it. Haven't heard from him yet. I hit Black Mo today. First thing I did was to cruise the lake with my depth finder on. Most of the main lake channel is now 7 feet or more, about 1/2 size of the whole lake. Most vegetation area around channel is no more than 5ft deep. Like I said, I just hope they don't simplify Black Mo as other reservoirs. Dam repair is as important as minimizing ecological damage. Talking about fishing, it was really windy today. I got a couple bites on frogs but no quality at all until this 19.5incher smoked my jig . I am also seeing more boats and shore anglers very recently. Then a view of the beautiful lake again, and its "teabag" water.
  2. Who did you contact from Penn State? I may be able to get a response quicker from some of the profs. PM me with who you tried to contact and I will attempt to expedite a response. I have fished at black mo, and I understand your concern. One way to think of it is the problems will be dealt with now and fixed so it can return to the prosperous lake it is currently. Lake Coyler is in need of a dam repair to fix a leak, and has consistently been dropping in volume for quite awhile. Be happy they are fixing the problems and not throwing it aside. Lake water drops are for many reasons in different areas of the country. It could be to provide spawning habitat, take spawning habitat away, kill vegetation, water supply, prevent ice destruction, and etc.. Drawing a lake down like Black Mo is never a sure thing, and there could be some related fish mortality as well as a vegetation die off. In my opinion the fixing of the dam and ramps is needed and beneficial, and with time the vegetation and the fish will bounce back. Hi Robby, Thank you very much! I will pm you as soon as I hit 10th post here.
  3. Hi Matt, I am at State College. Jerry
  4. I am currently waiting for response from the Pennsylvania Department of Environment Protection. I am also trying to consult some of the fishery/ecology professors at Penn State University. I will let you know what they say.
  5. I wish I can always be optimistic and hope for the best... Have you been on the Black Moshannon lake? If not, I wish you can plan a trip to there, take a close look at the eco-system and fish the lake, too. But just be hurry.
  6. Hi Nate, Thanks for the reply. However I really don't think the Sayers is comparable to the Black Mo. Sayers is a reservoir type lake which is much more accustomed to the drainage since they do it annually, and after the drainage you don't see a lot of weed on bottom because it usually happens during spring ice-out time. Black Mo, however, being a bog type shallow lake, has no such yearly drainage experience, and now is the peak time of vegetation growth there, and water vegetation is the primary fish habitat. After drawn down, lily stems will start to degrade with trapped fish... I wish this was just illusion from my nightmare. But all I know is that the reasoning for the drawn down is because "they did it 15 years ago"... Talking about fishery, the Black Mo now produces at least one 18incher+ largemouth for almost every summer trip of mine. There are lunkers, too. My personal best largemouth was from the lily there which topped 7 pounds 4 oz/22.5inches. Other than that, crappies over 11inches and bluegills over 10inches are quite common in Black Moshannon lake. I would say the prosperous fishery of current Black Mo is not coming back in at least 6-7 years if any massive fish kill happens. I know a bad dam could cause big trouble for the whole lake, but there are many ways to fix it, different construction manners, less water drainage and timing... This lake is just disparate from all other reservoir type lakes. It deserves respect and customized treatment from DCNR even they own it . I hope the DCNR could give reasoning based on scientific evaluation and work out a plan which well suites the bog lake so as to assure no massacre will ever happen. Attached is a picture of Black Mo in last summer, just to show how thick the vegetation is. After drawn down, places like this will have no water support and fish will die off with other creatures.
  7. Hi folks, I feel sorry to post my second topic on this site with the following content. Very recently there is a notice on the PA DCNR website about Black Moshannon. It says due to dam and boat launch repair the lake will be drawn down for 3 feet start from Aug. 23 till at least November. If you have ever fished there, you will know that it is a unique mountain-top bog lake covered with thick weeds, lotus and lily, and it is a very shallow lake. The center channel is only roughly about 7-8ft deep in the middle during summer. It averages 2-3ft in most part of the lake. It has great bass fishery as well as pickerels and big bluegills. It produces trophy bass, too. Now the point is, if this lake was drawn down by 3 feet, it is very likely going to shrink to only 1/3 of its current size. In such an extraordinarily hot summer, thousands of fish trapped in pools not connected to channel are going to die, those in the channel are very likely to suffer from de-oxygenation or simply have much greater chance to be anihilated by predators including human. Another brutal result is potential air pollution. There are about 1 feet thickness of plant debris/mud on the bottom around shore, after the drawn down, those mud/debris will be baked by sun directly with dead fish, generating stinky gas. Also, if the lake could not be back to its normal level as scheduled, the water could easily freeze with fish iced in. Furthermore, there was not any hearing about the drawn down. I don't see where the fish commission is. Am I over-reacting to it or what? I mean this seems to be common sense that a shallow lake like Black Mo is vulnerable to huge water loss during hot summer, but no one cares. They definitely need to justify the damage this drawn down is going to cause on the eco-system-the whole lake and bog area, on all the creatures living there, not only fish, but also frogs, turtles, birds, etc. I was told that they were expecting the fishery to come back in two years--so optimistic. Hey but this is not Sayers lake which is accustomed to drawn down every year! Also not Lake Perez which does not have a long history. The unique eco-system of Black Mo deserves a special plan!!! If this drawn down is going to happen, in my opinion, it is going to be a disaster for sure. Now a couple specific questions regarding this drawn down: a. Is this drawn down a real necessity? b. Why 3 feet? Is this based on minimum harm to the lake or simply based on "construction necessity"? c. Why the whole lake? There is only one concrete single lane boat lauch at the north side of the lake near the dam. The other three are for canoes/kayaks only. I am actually not seeing any necessity of renovation of all four boat launches. Even there is, it will be very easy to just build a temporary "water fence" around the launch, pump out the water inside the fence and then do the repair. Same thing to the dam. Black Mo dam is not a mile-long dam. To build a temporary water fence and a temporary outflow, re-route the water to circumvent the dam which needs repair, then go back to the Black Mo Creek. Or even build another dam in front of the current one. I know it is easy to just talk, but it is simply so difficult to hang on with such a beautiful and crispy eco-system. Black Mo is like a Florida lake in PA! It is always easy to destroy,though. d. Why in summer? e. Is there any scientific support to justify this drawn down? Is it approved by fish commission? Thank you so much for reading through all my long and awkward writing. It is breaking my heart :'(, as well as many other local fishermen's. Black Moshannon lake is overlooked. It deserves to be cherished. I hope you can throw in some suggestions about what we bass anglers can do about this issue. I appreciate all input. I will do everything I can to save the black pearl. Tight lines, Jerry
  8. Hi folks, Glad to find such a great place online all about bass fishing! I am from central PA, I fish Susquehanna and a couple nearby lakes. Looking forward to learning more
  9. Congrats! Did you fish from shore? I had not got a chance to hit the Susqy. Is it free from ice already? Thanks! Jerry
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