i have made 1000's of baits with 502. if you use the stick recipe on delmarts site you will need softener. but worms and and other bait 502 is all you need. i make tubes so i do use the lc hard plastic. i have some soft but its just to soft for me. like i said with 502 you have to scrape the bottom of the jug. i use an old arrow shaft. i also store the jug upside down and the hardener settles to the cap and just use an ice pick to break it up before i shake it, you have to mix it well. other plastics may work good and i have tryed a bunch of differant kinds but for the micro wave lc 502 blows them all away. i would at least get a gallon because once you get the hang of it you will be a pouring fool.lol