How do you shiner fish, I have done it before but it didnt go so well. Where do you throw the shiner, do you put a bobber on it, or do you let it free. Im fishing at a place where the bass hit on top like crazy when they hit its like someones just jumped in the water, its that big. I think shiner would be a good thing to use. I was jus wondering how you do it, any secrets about it.