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Thats kind of a given I would think. Now if you really wanted to make me think, try to make me decide between three 3-pounders or one 5-pounder. I would still take the 5lber

Mine has Rapalas, Strike King and Terminator spinnerbaits, ZOOM soft plastics, Rebel Lures, quite a few various STORM brand items, Luck E Strike worms, and tons of various lines from braid to flouro. The best part about my walmart though, is that they sell ammo for dirt cheap.

Lure selection is loosely based on the results of a select few who fish waters similar to mine who appear to have the same fishing style as I do. They don't know who they are and it will stay that way. Lure color is based entirely on colors I have had previous success with.

The first thing i learned here was that not all fish want to chase a lure at mach 3. Presentation is key.

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Nail Clippers for cutting off the tag line super close to the knot. This helps out tremendously when trying to avoid bringing back clumps of weeds when jigging and worming. Split Ring Pliers for swapping out trebles Long nose pliers for gut hooked fish Lure Retriever because its a great investment and will save you a lot of heartache. Flashlight because even though you may not fish at night, the inside of a fish's mouth gets pretty dark around dusk and dawn and it can be hard to even see the hook sometimes. Polarized Sunglasses because they work A zip cord to attach your nail clippers to your waist so that you never have to search for a tool to cut your line.

I have noticed zero difference on soft bottom presentations such as texas rigged worms being dragged across silt or sand. However, when pulling a worm through laydowns or across rocks, there is a noticeable difference. Rocks feel like rocks and wood feel like wood, there is a distinct difference between the two with tungsten where as it is sometimes hard to tell with lead. Also, if you really want to learn the bottom, use tungsten with braid. It can almost be sensory overload at first but after a few false hooksets and snags, you learn

If you say so.... I know he has removed those and the Vibraspins from his website because of the lawsuit, but contact karl and see if he has any "left over". He might be able to find one or two for you

dead sticking it for awhile then ripping it off the bottom and letting it sink back down has worked well for me on occasion. I will generally get a hit on the fall after ripping it off the bottom.

No reason to apologize. Some people on here tend to get their panties in a twist easier than others and start assuming things before letting things run their course. I hope you get to feeling better soon and hopefully you find some great stuff in the box that you can use. Be safe in the cold weather, we actually have solid ice in the ditches here in Houston, so I know it's very cold elsewhere.

Thanks Fishn Hard.

You said: .....and neither does density alone without taking into account comparable volumes Your not getting it Sam, or I am not explaining it well enough. Density does take into account volumes because density is the direct relationship between mass and VOLUME. Density is computed by diving the mass of an object by its volume. So yes, density alone is what affects bouyancy. Secondly, weight and bouyancy are not comparable units. Again, weight alone has nothing to do with bouyancy. Mass and weight are two seperate things, weight is a force, mass is not. Weight has no affect on density and therefore has no affect on bouyancy and bouyancy is what allows something to float. Thirdly, hulled objects such as ships have extremely dense materials that they are comprised of, but the ship isnt the only thing displacing the water. The air within the ship does not have to be confined, you could simply have the nothing but a hull and it would still float. The air within the hull is also displacing the water because it is occupying the space that the water would otherwise be. So calculating the density of the ship isnt simply done using the volume of the materails it is comprised of, but by considering the entire ship, the air within the ship, including the air that is not confined or inclosed, as one singular unit. When combining the density of the ships materials, the density of the air and all components within the ship that displace where the water would normally be, you get a much lower density. Now to further expand on that notion, lets stretch that ship out an extra 20 meters in length while maintaining the same hull depth, mass of materials, and width of the hull (Basically just thinning the walls while stratching it). By doing so, you have kept the same mass but the density has drastically lessened The volume of manufactured materials is the same, the density of the materials is the same, but the combined density of the materials and air displacing the water create a more bouyant ship. Again, mass has stayed the same but the density has decreased substantially allowing the ship to float more readily, without ever changing the mass. When combining this with gravity, we get the "weight" that you refer too, but the "weight" is still unchanged as well. The ship became more bouyant without a change in weight, proving that weight alone does not affect bouyancy unless the gravitational constant changes for some reason. Regardless, worms are not hollow or hulled and therefore none of that information is relevant to the issue at hand. Simple fact is, density is the only determining factor in bouyancy with all other environmental aspects being static, and the density is comprised of a relationship between volume and mass, not weight. You said: "Again, that pesky unit volume and for this discussion, volume, shape and zero air content leaves weight as the deciding factor of what and how lures fall faster in water (the original topic)." Incorrect again, as mentioned above, weight is not a deciding factor in bouyancy, mass and volume are. Weight is a force that can be given in multiple terms such as kgm/s^2, or slugft/s^2. Unlike the force called weight, density is given in terms of a mass and a volume only(kg/ml or however you want to assess it) without any restraints from time. If you were to use "weight" in your calculations for bouyancy, you would still have to divide by your gravitational constant to negate time and distance but even then you are only left with mass which doesnt equate to bouyancy without volume. The difference in materials (not color) is what causes differences in density for glitter. Again, different glitters are made of different materials and therefore have different densities ranging from 1.2-2.5. You have read what you have wanted to from my posts but I dont believe you quite understood, or maybe cared to understand, what I was saying. Maybe I didnt explainit well enough whichis my fault. Your use of the term "weight" in reference to bouyancy and density is misplaced and I don't think that you have realized that yet, or I may have been misreading all along. Your absolutely right about the scientific method. Results obtained through the SM must first and foremost be repeatable under indentical circumstances and be similar to those first tested. I think you might be going a little bit on opinion while being under the impression that it is fact. However, you are right in that this is a fishing forum and we have gone way off topic. I apologize to everybody, including you SENKOSAM, and hope that we can move on to the OP. If you wish to discuss more, please feel free to PM me.

We all thank you for your comment, atleast it added to your post count....

Texas to Arkansas isn't bad, atleast not the past week or so. It will be getting really bad really soon though. Anyways, I did notice that in his contact information, his location is Greenwood, Arkansas but the mailbox adress that I was given to send the package to is a PO Box in Huntington, Arkansas. Maybe he has been unable to get to it.

Flat rates do not have tracking numbers, so I cant provide one, I did not know that until I checked last night. Regardless, I photographed the box on January 26 with the $10.95 paid shipping label, date, and delivery address to Chipmunk84's PO Box in Huntington, Arkansas. I PM'd Fishn Hard because I couldnt find his email address in his contact information, and offerend to send him a photograph of the box with all of the shipping information including the already paid postage attached. I can't post photographs from work, but I will be happy to send the photograph to anybody who can post it on here for all to see. Bottom line is, the package was sent out 6 days ago on January 26, 2011. The package was shipped, the issue is on the recipients end. Since "Chipmunk84" has not responded or made any posts regarding recieving the package, and has not posted anything on this site in over a month, contacting him and seeing if there is a problem on his end would be the best thing to do.

I first starting using jigs because i heard of big fish being caught on them. After fishing jigs successfully, I fell in love with the constant contact feeling, it's ability to transmit information regarding structure location and type, and more than anything else "The Tap". To me, the tap of a jig is very similar to a texas rigged worm, which I also love to fish. Maybe it's the anticipation of the tap that gets me, I dont know. What I do know is that I love the jig, and there is always one tied onto one of my rods no matter where I am fishing.

Incorrect. The bouyancy is determined by the Density which is determined by dividing the mass (not weight)by its displaced volume. By dividing the resulting answer by the density of water you get the specific gravity which is usually a very close, unitless, value within close proximity to the Density. The relationship between the materials density and the density of the "water" that it is in determines the bouyancy. Weight alone has nothing to do with bouyancy. Not all glitters are manufactured of the same materials and therefore has a large range of specific gravity, as mentioned previously. I find it extremely hard to believe that the amount of salt and hardener is why the watermelon red would sink and the bullfrog wouldnt. DO you think that ZOOM would allow the hardener and salt to be consistantly greater only in certain colors and never in others. Why would ZOOM put more hardener or more salt in their watermelon red HT's than in their bullfrog colored HT's. Please explain that one for me because I don't see the logic in it. Agreed... Ok... Yes, I have experianced it with other colors. As far as pouring my own, I have no need too, there are multiple brands out there to chose from that already fill the niche that I require of a worm. If you are attempting to downgrade my comments by asking if I pour my own plastics, thats pretty laking. Because somebody doesnt pursue certain aspects in a field, doesn't mean that an individual is not able to comment on VERY BASIC aspects of it. I've met many mechanics who could put a motor together in a day and the motor was stout, but that doesn't mean they understood why. They couldn't tell you the LSA, the lift, overlap, degrees of timing advance or retard, or how the components blended together to make an efficient running internal combustion engine. Being able to do put something together doesnt automatically mean that you know how it works, and it sure doesnt mean that you know more about that motor than the guy standing next to you, it just means that you can put it together. "Knowing" that something works, and knowing how something works, are two completely different topics. It's not a good practice to attemp discrediting others by simply asking if they have poured plastic in a mold before.

Regarding colors and glitter affecting bouyancy: Two different colors of the same product can have vastly different bouyancies. Take the ZOOM Horny Toad as an example. The bullfrog color will float with an Owner 5/0 Twistlock while the same lure in watermelon red will sink. This is not an observation of two lures individually, this is comparative between alteast 10 bags of each purchased at various times of the year. Secondly, weight does not determine bouyancy, density does. And glitter is significantly more dense than an equal portioned (volume) polymer, ranging in specific gravity from 1.2 to 2.5 depending on make and type. When large amounts of glitter are added to a soft plastic polymer lure, the density is affected in such a way that the lure will often times show decidely different flotation characteristics. There are many variables to consider and account for in the composition of your polymers, possibly you are using a less dense glitter than other manufacturers, or less amounts of it in general. Regardless, glitter does affect the bouyancy of the worm and is something that an angler might would take into consideration next time he/she is looking for a certain soft plastic to behave a certain way.

I sent it last week so it should have arrived by now. Ill check the USPS code to see what the deal is and post it for everybody tonight.

Weightless flukes dart around a lot and can easily be made to break the surface like a fleeing baitfish. Add a weighted hook and you will get a quicker descent. If you tweak the body of the fluke slightly (create a bend in the body), or if you place the hook off to the side a little, you can make it spiral downwards on slack line which can be killer. Jigs and trailers is opening pandoras box, no limit to the imagination there. For a slow gliding decent, use a light weight and a wide body bait like a beaver or hyper freak. I generally change the weight to create a difference in descent rate. I change the trailer to alter the type of descent: no action, some action, a lot of action, straight fall, gliding fall, large water displacement, little water displacement, etc. A lot of people dont take into consideration that the color of the lure affects the density of the lure which in return affects action and drop rate when using very light weights. Colors with a high glitter concentration are denser than colors with no glitter generally speaking because the glitter itself is a more dense material than the polymer used for the worm. The more glitter, the more dense the worm will be. Experiment with your lure colors and figure out which ones are more dense than others. Its just one more little thing that might make the difference when fishing.

There's a really fun way to find out

I'll have to wait until i get home tonight to post the pictures on a different host.

Caught 2 decent ones today on lunch 2.88 1.82 Both were on caught on a Northstar Custom PB&J Premier Jig with a ZOOM chunk as a trailer The 2.88 hit it pretty hard and fought good for about 2 seconds then rolled to the top. I barely had him hooked which you can see in the photograph. However, it took me forever to get the hook out, that thin little strip of flesh was like grissle or something....TOUGH! I wasnt sure if I felt a bite or not with the 1.88 because I was dragging it through tree limbs when he nibbled it. I held tension on the line to see if the line did anything and I felt a very very very light movement so I set the hook and he was tagged. Temperature right now is 66 degrees with bluebird skies. Let me know if you can't see the photographs and I'll try to use a different host. We can't access photo bucket from work.

Bull Frog is the closest color you will get from ZOOM in the Horny Toad lineup. It has a chartruese underbelly, and when fishing a horny toad, that is the only side of the lure that the bass will generally ever see, unless you are using different techniques. Give them a try, I have had great success with that color pulling it through lilly pads and then letting it drop int he pockets.

The conditions that I use them in: Choppy water on wind blown banks, dirty/dingy water, and low light conditions Techniques: Slow and steady retrieve, burning it, jigging it, erratic retrieve Colors: Extreme Blue Gill, Chigger Craw, Black and Blue, Grey and Blue, Shad, OC Shadadelic Brand: KaRu Vibrashock (Very High Quality) I have had my best luck during the three stages of spawn in dingy water. I don't do so well during the summer time and during the fall.