Completely agree about Butch being first in line, ect. The guy is an awesome fisherman, about every facet of bass fishing. I use to rib him about being a drywall contractor, as I was a general contractor, he didn't like that too much, so I stopped. One day on the lagoon I was with a friend who use to guide on Isabella, Butch of course was out there, doing his thing, we crossed paths, Butch said he had not even got a nibble, which really surprised us, he then said he resorted to using (cough) live bait that he caught. Even with the live bait, Nada. Was a tough day, as no one caught anything. Still was a nice late spring day, and learned a couple of things that Butch mentioned.