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new2BC4bas, no problem Bruddah. Nice collection you have. I've always wanted a TD-Z, maybe one day.

Hi WRB, I've had the TD Fuego since it came out. I've never had a problem with the Fuego backlashing. I've used the reel for years and still stock. Even with the shallow spool installed, no issues with backlash. I guess I got a good one that has lasted all these years.

Left to right: Daiwa TD Zillion Type R, TD Zillion 50th Anniversary, TD Zillion Coastal, TD Zillion 100SHLA and Daiwa TD Fuego. All pre T-Wing system. It's not a big collection, but all that were available to the U.S. market. I've had these Zillions and Fuego since when they were first introduced. I always liked the Zillions and the original Fuego. These were pricey reels in the day and I have taken good care of all of them. The 100SHLA is the only Zillion with a slight boat rash, but all the others including the Fuego are pristine. All are stock, no upgrades to any of the reels. Besides using the BFS spool in which reel I want to use for BFS fishing. I bought a shallow BFS spool that is compatible with all reels pictured. I do use these reels still and they have through the years caught some good bass, here in SoCal and when I lived in Indiana. I reckon these are all collector items now. I'm quite proud of this little collection. Since getting the BFS spool, the Zillions and Fuego have a different lease on life, and I gotta say; it's fun using them as a converted BFS reel.

Spinning gear or BFS. A rod rated 1/8 to 3/8oz

I'd like to know if the 2024 SLX 70 is a smaller frame than the SLX MGL 70.

Thanks WRB, I do own the SLX MGL 71. The new SLX 71 looked interesting to me.

I have the Shimano SLX MGL 70 Casting Reel. I am curious is the frames are the same. I'm interested with the 2024 SLX 70, if there's much difference from that and the SLX MGL 70. I know the 2024 model has Silent Tune and weight differences is minimal. Would it be worth getting the new SLX if I have the SLX MGL 70?

I have the lefty. I'm surprised the 50th Anni has gone up on value.

Weight differences, very slightly in feel. I was shocked that the Hundo is actually a smaller reel. I think the weight differences might be due to the different braking systems of both reels. Or, I did switch out the handle on the Kestrel Elite with a carbon handle with EVA grips. So that might have dropped the weight of the Kestrel Elite. It's almost like comparing 1 feather to 2 feathers, that's how light and low profile both reels are.

Hundo reel comparison to Kastking Kestrel Elite BFS reel. Hundo with line 5 1/4oz. Kestrel Elite BFS with line 4 7/8oz. The Kestrel Elite BFS in frame size was smallest baitcast reel, now the Hundo is now my smallest casting reel. Granted they are made for 2 different applications, but the Hundo just amazes me how small it is and the weight differences from both reels is roughly a 1/2oz. The Kestrel is magnesium frame and the Hundo is bar stock CNC'd aluminum.

Hundo reel comparisons from top and side views with 3 of my smallest reels. Shimano Metaniums MGL 151B Shimano Curado 51E Daiwa Tatula SV TW 70HL

Checked out the Hundo on the water today. I was fishing, not fishing, or more like trying different lures with the Hundo to get a feel for the reel.. Firstly, it's a small reel. I'm not sure, I'll have to put it next to my Shimano Curado 51E; but I think they are similar in same size. In other words, the Hundo is a small compact casting reel that's not BFS intended. I bought the 7.1 gear ratio, spooled with 30 lb, 8 lb diameter Power Pro SuperSlick 8. I do have mono backing. Still not a fan of the handles grips. They are tacky, no worries if your fingers slip off the grips. I'll give Bates a thumbs up👍 on that one. I would like to try and slip on a pair of Reel Grips, give the grips more girth to hold with my fingers. The drag clicker sounds good and has a bit of feel through the reel. The tension knob, the clicker sound is not all that audible and a bit hard to feel when it clicks for tension. Not too happy bout this. I almost have to put the reel to my ear to hear the clicks. The star drag feels good and clicks are audible. The brake dial on the palm side plate has a slight click but the dial turns fairly easy but not feel like it will turn when you're making a cast. The brake dial is under back of the palm side plate. No worries of accidentally turning it when casting. I've done that with my Daiwa CT, when doing a side cast. I'd hit the dial and set the brake to something lower and make a mess out of the line. You don't have to dig a fingernail to turn the brake dial like on some Shimano reels with SVS braking. I have found setting my Hundo on 4 or 5, I get good long casts without line slop. I did get a slight birds nest when I casted a 3/8oz crankbait into the wind, my fault not the reels. Once I had certain lures dialed in, the Hundo casted like a dream. Holding the Hundo you do know it's a low profile reel, easy to palm. Tolerances on this reel are top notch. Nothing I could feel felt wonky, and reels very smoothly. I think my Shimano Metanium MGL 151B has competition in the smoothness department. Lures I tried. 3/4oz and 1oz glide baits, 3/8oz and 3/4oz crankbaits, 5/8oz jerkbait, 1/2oz MB Dark Sleeper and 3.5" Deps Cover Scat. The Hundo casted all these lures a good distance with the Cover Scat getting bombed. I'll have no problems making longs casts when I need to. Would I pay $375.00 retail for the Hundo? Probably not. Glad TW has a 20% sale going on and that right there made the Hundo easier to buy. Why I say this is, Bates is a new reel company to me. The Hundo is sort of unproven especially longevity. So going in buying this reel, sight unseen or more properly not previously held and personally inspected, just did not want to go full retail. Still it's an expensive reel for anyone, especially me. But a casting reel that weighs 5oz and has a drag clicker amd tight tolerances, don't know any other reels that has those and under $400. It's crazy for me to comprehend that the Metanium MGL 151B is 6.3oz and costs $450. The Hundo is 1.3oz lighter and $75 cheaper. And the Hundo does feel smaller especially palming the reel than the Metanium. Only time will tell If the Hundo will last. But in the long run, I think it will hold its value, only time will tell...

Will do! This weekend, whether the fish cooperate or not!

Nice! Also a 6'4" Light, probably BFS casting rod.

Spooled 60% mono backing and rest 30lb braid.

Got the Hundo! Left hand and knobs are interesting. Gummy solid feel. Not sure if I like, it doesn't seem to go with the reels aesthetics. 5oz(142gm) on the nose, and spool 10gms. Mounted the Hundo on my Phenix MBX 7' MH and on Phenix M1 Vortex 7'2" MH. Feels balanced on either rod. It's very light, like in BFS light weight range. As mentioned, drag clicker with nice sound and feel. Very smooth and it's a work of art like the Shimano Metanium MGL 151. I got the 7.1 gear ratio. I spooled with Power Pro Super Slick 8, 30lb braid moss green with mono backing. Frame is stunning but does not state country of origin. Odd.

I just got my Hundo, left hand, 7.1 gear ratio today. I'll post about it next couple days. It's crazy light and work of fishing art!

Just found out the Bates Hundo has a drag clicker!

Raul? JustJames?

I know old post. I ordered the Bates Hundo today from TW 20% email Dale. Price dropped down to $300 before tax. I'm hoping to have it by end of this week. I'll weigh the Hundo and find out if the claim to 5oz is for real. The Hundo has intrigued me since I heard of it after last summer. I wonder if this reel with ne a Shimano Metanium killer. I have that reel and it is a masterpiece of fishable art.

Meh. Read too many bad reviews on TW

Thank you! Just ordered the master catalog and ocean catalog!

Just placed my order for the Bates Hundo Reel. Bates Reels are not on the exclusions list but when I put in my cart, it was still regular price. I called TW and asked what's up. Rep said that after you place order, the discount will apply. I did that placed order and discount price came up. Rep said that if discount after placing order does does apply, call them and they will manually adjust. Rep also mentioned that items like Bates Reels will not show discount in cart even if you have the 20% email. It only shows after order is placed. Whew! Been wanting the Hundo since Icast last year!

TW Exclusion list from last TW sale:

Thank you for pic! Yup that's the one I'm talking about. Always wanted one those MBX. Again you got a real good deal! Enjoy fishing with that MBX!