Matt's talkin' about dixon lake , i fish there ALOT , and yes there are huge bass still in there , put it this way , i've seen bass well into the teens. any how , that lake gets pounded day in and day out!!! fish that are big , dominant females stay in a small area most of there life once they have found a spot that has optimal ambush spots and is deep but close to shallow ,spawning type ground . for instance , ''dottie'' was living in a spot that is at the bottom of a steep drop off , almost a wall, that she would pin trout against to feed on. but this was right close to the shallows to spawn . she would get off that spawning spot real quick , that's why she was hard to spot let alone catch . i think these bass see people and very quickly go deep (Dixon lake is very clear) . alot of times you can't even see them ever . for instance , i'll probably hear crap for this but this is the truth, i won't mention what lake this was at , but a really big bass that Mike long was tryin' to catch was being very elusive and would only come shallow when the park was closed. well one night after this lake closed the rangers making their rounds spotted this huge bass and called mike to come back and actually let him fish and catch her it was actually allowed to be a lake record, pretty sad huh. anyway , just an example of how elusive these big bass are and how hard it is to target them , and as Matt said, can get quite expensive!!!