Ok, I'm in southern Wisconsin and it looks like fall is finally arriving and I need some advice from all of you. I'm on a large clear lake, no structure near shore except a few docks that are still in, water temps are between 63-65 and the last 3 trips out have been real slow. I know to start looking for drop offs near weeds. I've tried cranks (both shallow & deep), topwater, senkos, fat ikas, lizards and power beasts on weedless jigs. The only ones that have produced are rick clunns 2.5(trolling in 20 fow), the lucky craft g-splash(in 10 fow) and senkos(near shore). What would be your 2 or 3 suggestions to try right now? Also for northern lakes, what water temps will tell you that the lake is starting to turn over? Once the lake does turns, what would usually be the water temp range that you look for that tells you that bass are just not active enough to fish and you're done for the year? Thanks for the input.