thats exactly my point what makes that pro so good or anyone for that matter if your planting brush to know exactly where the fish will be taking into consideration water temp and transitional period's then you have no true skill in fishing except for dropping brush graphing it and fishing it i mean come on what happened to laying out the map watching the weather knowing the season and understanding what the bass might be doing taking in to consideration of thermoclines, lateral, lines, forage habits etc etc. at any given time. thats how you know your a skilled basser not how well you can lay brush. THIS IS JUST CRAZY