I have had the best luck using the oil and grease that Dave (Reel Mechanic ) sells. Holds up really well,I have used reel butter bearing oil all so, but going apples to apples I get more distance from Dave's oil and don,t have to lube as much. As for grease in my opinion reel butter grease breaks down. Hot Sauce just makes to much of a mess ,but the oil is very good I believe it was made to us in the PT bearings,very thin need to re lube more often. Just my two cents.